The east was trash. That’s the only reason 2015 Cavs made it.
He beat the 60-win Hawks, the 51-win Bulls, and took Golden State to 6 when a couple of coin flips (Shump not getting hurt, Delly not getting hospitalized, hitting the game-winner in Game 1) might have actually put the ring in play. You can't make up a bullshyt excuse to diminish what he did.
How many all stars has Bron played with compared to Jordan?
How many teammates has he played with that averaged 20 ppg on the same team? MJ played with 1.
FOH.
We were talking about his bad lineups - switching it to the good lineups is moving the goalposts.
And the whole "counting how many all-stars" narrative is idiocy. First of all, Jordan played 10 seasons with Pippen, 8 with Phil Jackson, covering ALL of his competitive years. So the team had three all-time HOFers for literally every single playoff series he ever won. The fact that Lebron had a few seasons each with different good players doesn't somehow give him an advantage over someone who has all their seasons with the same great guys. And someone being an all-star is a poor measure of talent - you can't tell me that Mo Williams or B.J. Armstrong were stars at any point. Not to mention that if you did want to count all-stars, Jordan obviously had more than enough (Pippen, Rodman, Grant, Armstrong) for a league whose talent had been tremendously diluted by expansion.
I mean come on, in the 1998 playoffs Karl Malone was
the only 12ppg scorer on the Utah Jazz. 36-year-old Stockton was their #2 scorer at a 11.1ppg clip. That's how bad the 1990s were, and you're going to bytch about Jordan "only" having Pippen, Kukoc, Harper, Rodman, Longley, and Kerr alongside him?
Finally, counting "ppg" as your criteria is just stupid. Of course it's hard to average 20ppg when you play in a slow-ass era of 85-80 scores and your main guy is taking 30 of the shots every game. You know there's more to bball than ppg, right? Some of the all-time greats in history had epic seasons without scoring 20 ppg (Russell, Magic), so it's even dumber to assess a role player that way. MJ focused on being his team's scorer far and above everything else, so the team went surrounded him with defensive specialists, rebounders, and multiple ballhandlers.
And even though the Bulls surrounded Jordan with facilitating/rebounding/defending PGs/SFs and rebounding/defending PFs/Cs, they still had capable scorers to compliment him...they just didn't get shots.
Pippen averaged over 20ppg over the time period from 1991 to 1998, despite never once hitting 18 shots/game in a season.
Toni Kukoc was an 18.2ppg scorer in 1996, could easily have been a 20ppg scorer but he only got 13 shots/game.
Ron Harper was a 20ppg scorer the year before he joined the Bulls and had averaged 19.4ppg for his career to that point, his scoring average took a nosedive because he went from 18 shots/game to just 6 shots/game as the Bulls asked him to take a different role in the triangle and focus on facilitating and defense.
Name the WORST roster that MJ ever won a playoff series with. Name the WORST roster that MJ ever got to the Finals with. And I'll give you five different rosters much worse than that which Lebron took further.
......you named 5 different squads that MAYBE only Jordan could have made better (maybe) certainly not Bird Magic or Russell. The homie made himself a contender for years literally by himself. Who else has done that
thread?. Seriously spo needs to hire an assistant who can help fix this. Also just put these trolls on ignore and maybe one still gets voted the WOAT at the end of the year.
lebron's "defense"
