Carmelo Anthony Debates Whether J. Cole Is A Top 10 Rapper Of All Time

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He hasn't even passed Big Sean yet. Having nice features doesn't make you a great artist.
His best album has always been considered as nothing more than a decent project outside of his die hard fans.
Big Sean is going on another run right now and so is wale.

I called it when I said… Cole is about to start looking weird out here...


 

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I’ve listened to all things fab.

Neither are writing the deepest bars. IMO there’s only a handful that does (Ka (RIP), Lu,) Cole is by far a better rapper than Fab. Cole has a top 4 feature run (Wayne, Eminem, Busta), a classic, sales, longetivity, influence, and impact: he’s objectively ranked higher than Fab for sure.



We need to double back on this top 4 feature run. This feels like a made up stat thats easily manipulated:mjlol:


Are we talking about the feature run where he was rapping along side dudes that wasnt really lyricist like that? Now how do I compare that to somebody like a Big Pun,T.I ,Beanie Sigel,Fabolous,Jadakiss,Bizzy Bone who was actually killing features along side people who could rap for real? I literally saw Beanie Sigel equal if not outshine prime Nas,prime Jay,prime Jada,Scarface etc. but im supposed to be impressed by J Coles feature run:mjlol:?


Im sorry theres just too many people i think are better than Cole for him to be that high. How is Cole in a top 10 as a Jay protege,when Beanie Sigel aint in most peoples top 10's:mindblown:?


If you got Cole in a top 10 but not Sigel,thats laughable. J Cole is in moreso in that The Game,Joe Budden tier. Matter of fact thats probably disrespectful to Joe. So ill just say The Game.
 

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Do yall have him ranked higher than Kanye? Because as im thinking,im not sure if i would put him top 5 Rocafella.


1.Jay
2.Sigel
3.Kanye
4.Juelz
5.Cam


Its debateable:hubie:
 

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We need to double back on this top 4 feature run. This feels like a made up stat thats easily manipulated:mjlol:


Are we talking about the feature run where he was rapping along side dudes that wasnt really lyricist like that? Now how do I compare that to somebody like a Big Pun,T.I ,Beanie Sigel,Fabolous,Jadakiss,Bizzy Bone who was actually killing features along side people who could rap for real? I literally saw Beanie Sigel equal if not outshine prime Nas,prime Jay,prime Jada,Scarface etc. but im supposed to be impressed by J Coles feature run:mjlol:?


Im sorry theres just too many people i think are better than Cole for him to be that high. How is Cole in a top 10 as a Jay protege,when Beanie Sigel aint in most peoples top 10's:mindblown:?


If you got Cole in a top 10 but not Sigel,thats laughable. J Cole is in moreso in that The Game,Joe Budden tier. Matter of fact thats probably disrespectful to Joe. So ill just say The Game.

He’s not in my personal 10. He’s not on my objective 10 but he’s definitely top 15-20 and ranked higher objectively than Beans, Game, Fab, and Jada.

I’ve learned being a great rapper and lyricist isn’t enough to people. My objective 10 is

Nas
Jay
Eminem
Scarface
Common
Ice cube
Pac
Big
MF DOOM
Lupe
Ghostface

Personal

Lupe
Nas
Blu
Black thought
Lloyd banks
Joe budden
Vinnie Paz
Jay Electronica
Jay
Common

Idk what’s yall gripe with Cole but objectively

He has the sales, the classic singles, the classic verses, a classic album, the technical ability, the impact, and longetivity. He’s objectively one of the greats.

I’m done with it lol cause there’s nothing to be said that will change my mind or yours. nikka said bizzy bone smh gtfoh. Idgaf about most people lol nikkas saying fab had a classic no one believes that I bet these are the same people saying he’s better than Esco GTFOH
 
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He’s not in my personal 10. He’s not on my objective 10 but he’s definitely top 15-20 and ranked higher objectively than Beans, Game, Fab, and Jada.

I’ve learned being a great rapper and lyricist isn’t enough to people. My objective 10 is

Nas
Jay
Eminem
Scarface
Common
Ice cube
Pac
Big
MF DOOM
Lupe
Ghostface

Personal

Lupe
Nas
Blu
Black thought
Lloyd banks
Joe budden
Vinnie Paz
Jay Electronica
Jay
Common

Idk what’s yall gripe with Cole but objectively

He has the sales, the classic singles, the classic verses, a classic album, the technical ability, the impact, and longetivity. He’s objectively one of the greats.

I’m done with it lol cause there’s nothing to be said that will change my mind or yours. nikka said bizzy bone smh gtfoh. Idgaf about most people lol nikkas saying fab had a classic no one believes that I bet these are the same people saying he’s better than Esco GTFOH


Saying J Cole is better than Beanie Sigel is worst than saying Fab is better than Nas lowkey. Because if you say Fab is better than Nas,clearly theres just a style and content preference. J Cole and Beanie Sigel have closer similarities,both at least do story telling,both make heartfelt soulful records. But Beans does it on so much of a higher level,theres no way you are objectively coming to this conclusion smh. Then scoffing at Bizzy Bone who you could argue has as many classic singles as J Cole,and more classic verses. Even on his verses where you may not fully know what Bizzy is saying,you still know the melody and cadence.:mjlol:


Only J Cole fans know J Cole verses and J Cole songs. So thats nice if he has alot of people who listen to his music. But i think theres zero cross over. There should be NOBODY in a top 10-15 that you would have to be a fan to know any of their verses,or any of their songs. Just not a memorable or impactful artist imo. Thats the opposite of impact.
 

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Saying J Cole is better than Beanie Sigel is worst than saying Fab is better than Nas lowkey. Because if you say Fab is better than Nas,clearly theres just a style and content preference. J Cole and Beanie Sigel have closer similarities,both at least do story telling,both make heartfelt soulful records. But Beans does it on so much of a higher level,theres no way you are objectively coming to this conclusion smh. Then scoffing at Bizzy Bone who you could argue has as many classic singles as J Cole,and more classic verses. Even on his verses where you may not fully know what Bizzy is saying,you still know the melody and cadence.:mjlol:


Only J Cole fans know J Cole verses and J Cole songs. So thats nice if he has alot of people who listen to his music. But i think theres zero cross over. There should be NOBODY in a top 10-15 that you would have to be a fan to know any of their verses,or any of their songs. Just not a memorable or impactful artist imo. Thats the opposite of impact.

I’m a bone fan but I’m not about to do this about no damn bizzy bone being over Cole hahaha you’re my guy and the cam newton sig is the best on here so
I’ll leave this be
 
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