Extended cut. Theatrical leaves out some important stuff. Plus it flows much better
Cant remember the name of this movie...
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Extended cut. Theatrical leaves out some important stuff. Plus it flows much better
MidwestD
Clyde Frog's Shooter
I thought it was a good movie overall, the cats I know that don't like it feel that way because the gloomy and depressing ending. The only part of the dialogue I struggled to get thru was the Counselor's damn near 20 minute phone conversation after his lady was kidnapped. shyt was just weird how drawn out it was, since it was no help at all in finding her.
I thought the phone conversation was really powerful as the story the guy told was very nihilist in nature and was some real shyt; It was drawn out for a reason. The counselor was so far removed from reality that he did not understand that, in McCarthy's words, Life is totally fukked. The events that led up to his wife's death were so completely spontaneous that people are basically fukked from the start, plain and simple. No matter how good you may think something is or somebody is, sooner or later, you're gonna get fukked. I don't believe this, but that is McCarthy's worldview...so the speech went along with the plot well; The Counselor could not accept the reality that there is nothing you can do to escape a fukked up world; you can't run, you can't fix it; when you are in a fukked up system, you yourself are destined to get fukked, sooner or later, so stop trying to fight it; accept it and get ready for the end. Pretty fukked up huh?
MidwestD
Clyde Frog's Shooter
it looks like that scene went over my head 2 be honest 
, but to be fair I was drunk when I watched the movie 
. From what I understood, Counselor didn't know she was dead yet, so that was my thinking, on some the fukk you takin all this time to listen to dude preach for? I think overall I understood most of the film's message/dialogue, minus that particular scene. I'm gonna have to rewatch this movie sober and dig deeper into it. On some shallow shyt, that opening scene with Penelope Cruz was pure piff 
, but to be fair I was drunk when I watched the movie . From what I understood, Counselor didn't know she was dead yet, so that was my thinking, on some the fukk you takin all this time to listen to dude preach for? I think overall I understood most of the film's message/dialogue, minus that particular scene. I'm gonna have to rewatch this movie sober and dig deeper into it. On some shallow shyt, that opening scene with Penelope Cruz was pure piff
it looks like that scene went over my head 2 be honest
it looks like that scene went over my head 2 be honest
Nah, the Counselor knew she was dead because of the talks he had with Javier bardem and Brad Pitt characters...they told him that if you enter this world, this is what's going to happen...they didn't say this "may" happen or it "could" happen, but this is GOING to happen, but the COunselor, who was never part of that world, did not comprehend it...when you place an outsider in a system, he cannot understand said systemm because he existed in a different system first; therefore, when the counselor entered the system he did not understand, his actions throughout the movie are very realistic; his mind could not comprehend the viciousness and sociopathic nature of the world he entered, so he acts as if he can avoid or change his fate. It is impossible, because McCarthy believes that once you exist in that system, you are completely fukked and there is no way to exist in that system without being prey to it...the Counselor never understood that, even in the end when he gets the tape...his brain does not understand that system because he is an outsider. Its a very deep film and there parts i agree with, but its a deeply nihilistic film, which I don't agree with.