#CaneloCartel: "The door is not closed for anybody....we want the big names"

[Jello Biafra]

JCC Jr is an option for Cinco De Mayo obviously and probably GGG and Timothy Bradley as well

:bplease:

And when Canelo's ankle is healed he needs to do everyone a favor and liberate that belt from the clutches of K-9 Bundrage as a tune-up before Cotto in May.

 

[Black_Jesus]

It's the truth...Miguel Cotto is not a natural Middleweight and Gennady Golovkin is much too big for him.


And yeah, your example fighters are only the 2 greatest fighter of this era....nobody else can do it or does it.

Look what just happened to Nonito Donaire and Yuriorkis Gamboa when they fought naturally larger men

Look what just happened to Adrien Broner when he fought a naturally large welterweight

Same with Paulie Malignaggi vs Shawn Porter

Why didnt Manny let Antonio Margarito weigh in at the Junior Middleweight limit when they were fighting for the 154 belt?

Why didnt Floyd let Canelo Alvarez weigh in at the Junior Middleweight limit when they were fighting for the 154 belt?

For the exact same reason why Cotto will try everything to avoid GGG and it's okay because we know why he's ducking him, GGG is naturally way too big for him

And thats why you should respect Nonito, Gamboa, and AB, because they understood, if they were gonna call themselves champions of a division they had to fight their contemporaries. They were worried about fighting their competition rather than how best not to take an L...

 

[George's Dilemma]

Oscar really is a disloyal sucker for trying to hijack Cinco De Mayo from Mayweather and Showtime. That move was foul on his part. I understand it's a business, and it's a dirty business, but that doesn't excuse his bullshi!t. Cross dressin unscrupulous snake. I ain't a Floyd stan either, but that's just foul. Fuggin Golden Boy.

 

[Newzz]

And thats why you should respect Nonito, Gamboa, and AB, because they understood, if they were gonna call themselves champions of a division they had to fight their contemporaries. They were worried about fighting their competition rather than how best not to take an L...

Cotto's at the end of his career though...this is just a joyride for him.


He KNOWS he's not gonna have the Middleweight belt for a long time, but he went for history and accomplished it. Now, it's about making the most money for the least amount of risk and if you propose to him "fight either GGG or Canelo Alvarez", no doubt he is gonna take Alvarez because GGG is too big.


Miguel Cotto is only 5'7 and started his career at 140...he's now the Middleweight Champion of the World. Let him live a little. Besides, fighting Canelo instead of GGG is NOT a bad decision because Canelo is naturally bigger than him as well

 

[Black_Jesus]

It's the truth...Miguel Cotto is not a natural Middleweight and Gennady Golovkin is much too big for him.


And yeah, your example fighters are only the 2 greatest fighter of this era....nobody else can do it or does it.

Look what just happened to Nonito Donaire and Yuriorkis Gamboa when they fought naturally larger men

Look what just happened to Adrien Broner when he fought a naturally large welterweight

Same with Paulie Malignaggi vs Shawn Porter

Why didnt Manny let Antonio Margarito weigh in at the Junior Middleweight limit when they were fighting for the 154 belt?

Why didnt Floyd let Canelo Alvarez weigh in at the Junior Middleweight limit when they were fighting for the 154 belt?

For the exact same reason why Cotto will try everything to avoid GGG and it's okay because we know why he's ducking him, GGG is naturally way too big for him

Didn't see what you edited..

Manny asked for that catchweight because it was his first fighting at a weight class higher than Welter (which he already was regularly coming in light). Beat Marg and vacated with the quickness.

Floyd didn't let Canelo come in at 154 because he was being a bytch

Regardleas.. they still fought them nikkas, even if it was catchweight.. Big difference than avoiding them all together, which Cotto is doing

 

[Newzz]

Oscar really is a disloyal sucker for trying to hijack Cinco De Mayo from Mayweather and Showtime. That move was foul on his part. I understand it's a business, and it's a dirty business, but that doesn't excuse his bullshi!t. Cross dressin unscrupulous snake. I ain't a Floyd stan either, but that's just foul. Fuggin Golden Boy.

He's not being disloyal, because Floyd is NOT signed to Golden Boy Promotions.....Canelo Alvarez is.


Oscar's loyalty lies with his boxer, and CANELO requested (and been talking about taking those dates for about 2-3 years now) that DLH gets him those dates and he's doing it.


He would actually be disloyal if he refused to make a way for Canelo to have the dates he wants to have


And another thing, ODLH is still doing business with Showtime. He's putting on a stacked card on December 13th for Showtime (Khan v Alexander, Thurman v Bundhu, Andrade v Charlo)....the same night that HBO is showing the Bradley vs Chaves fight with Golden Boy's Mauricio Herrera fighing on HBOs undercard.

 

[Newzz]

Floyd didn't let Canelo come in at 154 because he was being a bytch

Regardleas.. they still fought them nikkas, even if it was catchweight.. Big difference than avoiding them all together, which Cotto is doing

I highly doubt that GGG would fight Cotto at 155 or even 154 (like he says he will fight Floyd at) in order to make the fight. If GGG comes out and says he'll fight Miguel Cotto at a 155 catchweight, and Cotto still turns down the fight, then I'll be in total agreement with you.

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

I will be rooting for Canelo-Cotto to be made for May, hope Canelo wins...GGG-Murray can take place in Monte Carlo in Feb, will root for GGG.
Summer/Fall 2015: Canelo-GGG.


I would rather see Canelo-GGG, as I think Canelo will soon be moving to MW anyways and he naturally is very close to GGG in weight. Cotto definitely isn't a legit MW weight wise.

Maybe finally #GGGoodBoys will get some respect after we put the beats on #CaneloCartel.

 

[patscorpio]

Oscar really is a disloyal sucker for trying to hijack Cinco De Mayo from Mayweather and Showtime. That move was foul on his part. I understand it's a business, and it's a dirty business, but that doesn't excuse his bullshi!t. Cross dressin unscrupulous snake. I ain't a Floyd stan either, but that's just foul. Fuggin Golden Boy.

its business..its not written in any law that only Floyd and his co are allowed to fight on that day...if Floyd is gonna bullshyt with another card and Oscar is able to put together a better one im all for it

 

[George's Dilemma]

He's not being disloyal, because Floyd is NOT signed to Golden Boy Promotions.....Canelo Alvarez is.


Oscar's loyalty lies with his boxer, and CANELO requested (and been talking about taking those dates for about 2-3 years now) that DLH gets him those dates and he's doing it.


He would actually be disloyal if he refused to make a way for Canelo to have the dates he wants to have


And another thing, ODLH is still doing business with Showtime. He's putting on a stacked card on December 13th for Showtime (Khan v Alexander, Thurman v Bundhu, Andrade v Charlo)....the same night that HBO is showing the Bradley vs Chaves fight with Golden Boy's Mauricio Herrera fighing on HBOs undercard.

I hear you breh, but then he still makes comments like how he wants to continue promoting Mayweather fights, and what he pulled on Showtime letting them think they were getting ready to do the paperwork, was just foul man. I can't respect that. I can even think of times that I've bought cars and I've let a dealer know that I'm going a different direction so that he doesn't feel I'm wasting his time. Another thing is, Floyd only has one more May fight, that said, De La Hoya couldn't let one more Cinco De Mayo go? Canelo is the future is he not? That sh!t was foul to me breh.

 

[Newzz]

I will be rooting for Canelo-Cotto to be made for May, hope Canelo wins...GGG-Murray can take place in Monte Carlo in Feb, will root for GGG.
Summer/Fall 2015: Canelo-GGG.


I would rather see Canelo-GGG, as I think Canelo will soon be moving to MW anyways and he naturally is very close to GGG in weight. Cotto definitely isn't a legit MW weight wise.

Maybe finally #GGGoodBoys will get some respect after we put the beats on #CaneloCartel.

#CaneloCartel

 

[Newzz]

I hear you breh, but then he still makes comments like how he wants to continue promoting Mayweather fights, and what he pulled on Showtime letting them think they were getting ready to do the paperwork, was just foul man. I can't respect that. I can even think of times that I've bought cars and I've let a dealer know that I'm going a different direction so that he doesn't feel I'm wasting his time. Another thing is, Floyd only has one more May fight, that said, De La Hoya couldn't let one more Cinco De Mayo go? Canelo is the future is he not? That sh!t was foul to me breh.

Oscar works for Canelo Alvarez....if Canelo says he wants to fight on Cinco De Mayo 2015, his promoter has to do everything he can to make that happen.


Besides, it's a MEXICAN Holiday and Canelo is a pure/natural/born, bred, and raised Mexican as well as the biggest draw in Mexico at this time, why should he "let" Floyd have one more May?


Floyd can fight any weekend in May, but if he wants to fight on "Cinco De Mayo" or "Mexican Independence Day" weekends....he has to go head to head with Canelo Alvarez who's trying to fight either Miguel Cotto/JCC Jr in May and GGG in September


There's no fights Floyd can make to top those unless he fights Manny Pacquiao

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

I hear you breh, but then he still makes comments like how he wants to continue promoting Mayweather fights, and what he pulled on Showtime letting them think they were getting ready to do the paperwork, was just foul man. I can't respect that. I can even think of times that I've bought cars and I've let a dealer know that I'm going a different direction so that he doesn't feel I'm wasting his time. Another thing is, Floyd only has one more May fight, that said, De La Hoya couldn't let one more Cinco De Mayo go? Canelo is the future is he not? That sh!t was foul to me breh.

What did ODH do that was so bad? Everything I've seen DLH has been trying to protect himself. There is a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes.
Haymon is stacking a roster of fighters because he wants to take over the boxing game. He will be starting working with NBC next year and no one has a clear gauge of how much programming he will have with them. Everything is just rumors now, but he could be moving fights away from Showtime, or with his roster he could leverage Showtime and push ODH out.
Seemed like ODH was looking out for his best interest in finding another outlet with HBO and TR. He used Canelo as leverage to keep his company viable.
Mayweather has been using ODH, even though he dislikes him, because he needed a promoter to put on his fights and won't work with TR. Mayweather just secured his promoter's license, so there have been rumors that Mayweather was going to move away from letting ODH be the promotional company for his fights.

Boxing is going through a huge power struggle right now. Everyone is trying to find their place to stay afloat or try to rule the industry.

 

[Jello Biafra]

Oscar doesn't owe Floyd or Showtime anything. All of his moves recently have been good business for GBP and his fighters and that is where any loyalty needs to lie.

 

[George's Dilemma]

Oscar works for Canelo Alvarez....if Canelo says he wants to fight on Cinco De Mayo 2015, his promoter has to do everything he can to make that happen.


Besides, it's a MEXICAN Holiday and Canelo is a pure/natural/born, bred, and raised Mexican as well as the biggest draw in Mexico at this time, why should he "let" Floyd have one more May?


Floyd can fight any weekend in May, but if he wants to fight on "Cinco De Mayo" or "Mexican Independence Day" weekends....he has to go head to head with Canelo Alvarez who's trying to fight either Miguel Cotto/JCC Jr in May and GGG in September


There's no fights Floyd can make to top those unless he fights Manny Pacquiao

And that's another foul part about the whole thing. I'd like to see that fight as much as anyone else, but Arum and ODH might have pulled some weasel sh!t to pull that off if it happens. I don't respect that sh!t. It's not on the up and up as I'm sure Floyd, Showtime, and ODH had an understanding. I'm not calling ODH out exclusively as if the business side of the industry is filled with upstanding citizens. Boxing has been notoriously dirty, but this move was not something that I respect as a man. It's quite frankly, appalling to me.