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ChocolateGiddyUp said:
We've seen Clenelo defiant af :pacspit: at plenty in the past few years

If he was truly innocent we'd see the :birdman: Canelo

not the I guess I'll pull out the fight :ld:Canelo
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Good point, he just went into hiding hoping he wouldn’t get suspended.

Why not say he would join year around testing to prove he’s a clean fighter going FORWARD, cuz now we know he wasn’t a clean fighter in the past.
 
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seemorecizzy said:
what would a hair test prove?
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Nothing, Ian Kidd does better writeups on drugs testing in combat sports than anyone and already debunked the hair test nonsense, that poster is just parroting talking points he's heard from clowns like Montoya and Montero.

Debunking the misinformation around Canelo’s clenbuterol positives

The hair test

There has been a push in some quarters to use the “hair test” in order to convict or clear Canelo. To hear it told, this hair test is the answer to every question. In reality, hair testing for clenbuterol isn’t used for a reason; it’s incredibly unreliable.

The amount of clenbuterol that shows up in hair varies massively depending on factors like hair color. One study gave a group of people the same amount of clenbuterol. One participant, a 27-year-old female, showed 23 ng/g of clenbuterol in her hair afterwards. Another participant, also a 27-year-old female, showed 161 ng/g of clenbuterol in her hair. They both took the exact same amount, but one had seven times as much in her sample. The suggested reason for this discrepancy? The women had different hair color. This hair color discrepancy was supported by the other data in the study.

That might sound ridiculous, but other studies have found the same thing.

Another study, with more participants, found that even among subjects with similar hair color, the variation is still large. Despite every subject having hair listed as “brown” or “dark brown”, this study also found significant variation:


The lowest detected amount of clenbuterol in the first segment of hair was 0.43 pg/ng, the largest amount was 4.76 pg/ng. Both of these subjects had hair classed as “brown,” and both took the same amount of clenbuterol in the same way. That’s a difference of an entire order of magnitude. A similar issue was found in the second segments, which ranged from a detected amount of 0.00 pg/ng to 0.86 pg/ng.

Tests that have results varying by so much even under a controlled conditions are not reliable tests. The idea that they would somehow give us the information we need to determine if Canelo accidentally or deliberately ingested clenbuterol is ridiculous.
 
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ChocolateGiddyUp said:
We've seen Clenelo defiant af :pacspit: at plenty in the past few years

If he was truly innocent we'd see the :birdman: Canelo

not the I guess I'll pull out the fight :ld:Canelo
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Chavez's lack of professionalism was noted by Alvarez, who has always remained in top condition and has steadily developed himself into one of the top 10 fighters in the world.

Pointing to Alvarez's reluctance to take on middleweight champion Gennady Golovkin, Chavez said he could represent Mexico better than his opponent. Alvarez was flabbergasted when the comment was relayed to him.

"I think you shouldn't even ask that question because …" Alvarez said in Spanish, his voice trailing off.

Alvarez continued, "Let me tell you why. You can't put a fighter like him, who has embarrassed the sport, who doesn't have discipline, what's happened with his drug tests, with all the things he's done to hurt boxing. He can't say he can represent a country better than me. Why? Just his image. His image shouldn't represent a country. Do you think he's an example for a child?"


Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. wants fight against Canelo Alvarez to be epic, but his reputation precedes him



I guess Canelo is no longer a good role model:mjgrin:
 
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aceboon said:
Nothing, Ian Kidd does better writeups on drugs testing in combat sports than anyone and already debunked the hair test nonsense, that poster is just parroting talking points he's heard from clowns like Montoya and Montero.

Debunking the misinformation around Canelo’s clenbuterol positives

The hair test

There has been a push in some quarters to use the “hair test” in order to convict or clear Canelo. To hear it told, this hair test is the answer to every question. In reality, hair testing for clenbuterol isn’t used for a reason; it’s incredibly unreliable.

The amount of clenbuterol that shows up in hair varies massively depending on factors like hair color. One study gave a group of people the same amount of clenbuterol. One participant, a 27-year-old female, showed 23 ng/g of clenbuterol in her hair afterwards. Another participant, also a 27-year-old female, showed 161 ng/g of clenbuterol in her hair. They both took the exact same amount, but one had seven times as much in her sample. The suggested reason for this discrepancy? The women had different hair color. This hair color discrepancy was supported by the other data in the study.

That might sound ridiculous, but other studies have found the same thing.

Another study, with more participants, found that even among subjects with similar hair color, the variation is still large. Despite every subject having hair listed as “brown” or “dark brown”, this study also found significant variation:


The lowest detected amount of clenbuterol in the first segment of hair was 0.43 pg/ng, the largest amount was 4.76 pg/ng. Both of these subjects had hair classed as “brown,” and both took the same amount of clenbuterol in the same way. That’s a difference of an entire order of magnitude. A similar issue was found in the second segments, which ranged from a detected amount of 0.00 pg/ng to 0.86 pg/ng.

Tests that have results varying by so much even under a controlled conditions are not reliable tests. The idea that they would somehow give us the information we need to determine if Canelo accidentally or deliberately ingested clenbuterol is ridiculous.
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That article is stupid.


It rules out every single test that you can do and is basically a Canelo is clean piece. Did you even read it?:usure:


Get that bloody elbow MMA shyt outta here:camby:



In addition, boxing doesn’t have a 365 day a year testing regime like USADA in place. Fighters are generally only tested during their fight camps.
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Which is a flat out lie. So, the fact you pushing some random MMA person's thought on Boxing, and the guy doesnt even know that Boxing does have year round testing available, lets me know he doesn't know the hell he talking about:comeon:





^^^^the point is, its illegal. The fukk are you eating Mexican beef for if you are aware that eating it = Clenbuterol in your system.

Eating tainted meat, knowing beforehand what the side effects are, means you're guilty. Period. This dude, whos article you posted in here, doesnt understand that simple fact.
 
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