Can we talk about Israel for a minute

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if you want to have a conversation on this level, it's probably better to meet face to face rather than over forums. can't take you guys too seriously anymore unless you in front of me.
 

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I'm not a Christian, so :manny: However, Science is based on research and it is what it is. With extensive research some things can be proven. I was with you until the Science part.

Ok, but do you not see how what you said doesn't answer my question. I never asked you if scientists do research and never doubted that some things can be proven with enough extensive research.

I said if based on false premesis and assumptions can science be wrong or do you believe that even with those false premises and assumptions science will always be right? Your bit about being 'with me until the science part' is evident of the religious like devotion to science alot of people end up with after a trip through the education system. You were with me until I simply suggested science may not always have divine knowledge and understanding.
 

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Ok, but do you not see how what you said doesn't answer my question. I never asked you if scientists do research and never doubted that some things can be proven with enough extensive research.

I said if based on false premesis and assumptions can science be wrong or do you believe that even with those false premises and assumptions science will always be right? Your bit about being 'with me until the science part' is evident of the religious like devotion to science alot of people end up with after a trip through the education system. You were with me until I simply suggested science may not always have divine knowledge and understanding.
So, Science can be manipulated is what you're saying?
 

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But why in the Bible it states that they are the synagogue of Satan??
He doesn't know what he's talking about. The "converts" the Bible commands us to love is our brothers that fell off and trying to come back into the fold. Those are the gentiles the Bible talks about loving. Non Israelites will never be mixed with Israelites
 

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So, Science can be manipulated is what you're saying?

No, that was not at all what I said. Manipulate implies to control or alter something cleverly with complete knowledge of what you are doing, and implies with the intention to mislead. While yes I do believe science definitely can and has been manipulated before, that is not what I said.

Again do you not believe that if based on false premesis and assumptions that science can be wrong? Or do you believe that even with those false premesis and assumptions science will always be right?

Do you know what I mean by a premise or an assumption or shall I give you an example?
 

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No, that was not at all what I said. Manipulate implies to control or alter something cleverly with complete knowledge of what you are doing, and implies with the intention to mislead. While yes I do believe science definitely can and has been manipulated before, that is not what I said.

Again do you not believe that if based on false premesis and assumptions that science can be wrong? Or do you believe that even with those false premesis and assumptions science will always be right?

Do you know what I mean by a premise or an assumption or shall I give you an example?
Just give me an example to break it down breh.
 

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I'm gonna post this vid again because I think people are ignoring it. It breaks the genetics down without any of the religious mumbo jumbo.



While this may be true above but I started digging myself into some of the hypotheses & theories came to this article:

‘Jews a Race’ Genetic Theory Comes Under Fierce Attack by DNA Expert

For those that don't know Elhaik is an Israeli American geneticist that stirred the hornets nest by publishing his research on the connection between Ashkenazi jews & khazars which was widely dismissed by mainstream Jewish scholars.

"To illustrate his point, Elhaik swivels his chair around to face his computer and calls up a 2010 email exchange with Ostrer.

It was a great pleasure reading your group’s recent paper, ‘Abraham’s Children in the Genome Era,’ that illuminate the history of our people,” Elhaik wrote to Ostrer. “Is it possible to see the data used for the study?”

Ostrer replied that the data are not publicly available. “It is possible to collaborate with the team by writing a brief proposal that outlines what you plan to do,” he wrote. “Criteria for reviewing include novelty and strength of the proposal, non-overlap with current or planned activities, and non-defamatory nature toward the Jewish people.” That last requirement, Elhaik argues, reveals the bias of Ostrer and his collaborators.

Allowing scientists access to data only if their research will not defame Jews is “peculiar,” said Catherine DeAngelis, who edited the Journal of the American Medical Association for a decade. “What he does is set himself up for criticism: Wait a minute. What’s this guy trying to hide?”

Despite what his critics claim, Elhaik says, he was not out to prove that contemporary Jews have no connection to the Jewish people of the Bible. His primary research focus is the genetics of mental illness, which, he explains, led him to question the assumption that Ashkenazi Jews are a useful population to study because they’re so homogeneous.

What I underlined is very similar to what these "scholars" have to say about the ethnic background of the ancient Egyptians. This should at least make you think
 
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Just ask any "Jew" about who the Rothschild's are and watch them start ducking/stuttering :sas2:

The biggest most powerful country in the world, seems to hate blacks the most while bending over backwards for the JewISH state of Israel... If that isnt the most tell tale sign of who are and who are not Israelites, then I do not know what is...
 

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He doesn't know what he's talking about. The "converts" the Bible commands us to love is our brothers that fell off and trying to come back into the fold. Those are the gentiles the Bible talks about loving. Non Israelites will never be mixed with Israelites

You are interpreting.

In the Torah there are plenty of people who were non israelites who converted . They were not born into the tribe or descendants of Jacob.

How is someone who is all ready an Israelite or descendant of Jacob convert ? Gentile means outsider, non jewish , pagans
 

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You ain't no Jew. You been studying lies all ya life you cac.... here's one little piece of info I can start with from your own ppl's information

The JEWISH ENCYCLOPEDIA, edition of 1925, Vol. 5, page 41, states "Edom is in modern Jewry."

Is that accurate or is the Jewish scholars that composed this edition of the Encyclopedia a bunch of liars? :jbhmm:


BRUH MY BLOODLINE TRACES TO JUDIASM AND ISRAEL FROM THE BEGINNING OF TIME .. THESE BLACK HEBREW ISRAELITE NUTJOBS ONLY POPPED UP ABOUT 100 YEARS AGO .. STOP BELIEVING THIS DUMBASSNESS

 

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You are interpreting.

In the Torah there are plenty of people who were non israelites who converted . They were not born into the tribe or descendants of Jacob.

How is someone who is all ready an Israelite or descendant of Jacob convert ? Gentile means outsider, non jewish , pagans

ITS BECAUSE THESE BLACK HEBREW ISRAELITE NUTJOBS WANT TO BELIEVE THEYRE SPECIAL BY CLAIMIN SOME1 ELSES HERITAGE .. ITS ALL EGO DRIVEN
 

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you're nothing more than leprous edomites who are committing identity theft to legitimize the fraudulent claims to lands that NEVER belonged to you.


SO BLACK HEBREW ISRAELITES WHO ONLY POPPED UP RECENTLY ARE CLAIMIN MY CULTURE WHICH HAS BEEN WITH ME SINCE THE BEGINNING OF MY FAMILY TREE (LOOK UP MAIMONIDES) .. YET IM THE ONE COMMITTING IDENTITY THEFT?

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