Can we talk about how poorly Peter Parker was treated during the OG trilogy

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@MartyMcFly can we get some verification that Parker is in fact supposed to be a certified bytch?

I'm wondering why this actually matters?

As long as the character has a strong character arc and can genuinely be a 3D character, does it matter? Just sounds like the Hugh Jackman is too tall to play Wolverine crowd.

As for the comics, his backbone appears more so in thought bubbles than speech while he is Peter Parker. And it mostly appears as passive aggressiveness.

The real shame is people not knowing a responsible Peter and whole person after he has his daughter.
 

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Natural webs versus creating wet cement as webs

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The thought of a teenager who can't afford anything building web shooters is laughable. Raimi actually noted that it would be ridiculous for a kid without a job to create webs that are strong as steel and would constantly refill them, without a proper job.
 

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The real shame is people not knowing a responsible Peter and whole person after he has his daughter.

most people haven’t read spider-girl a very underrated series in the mc2. Mayday Parker and her journey is great but Peter had giving up being Spider-Man for the most part after losing his leg and only really gets back into because she gets into the superhero business. If they do a fourth Spider-Man movie with Toby introducing mayday Parker would be a wise move.
 

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most people haven’t read spider-girl a very underrated series in the mc2. Mayday Parker and her journey is great but Peter had giving up being Spider-Man for the most part after losing his leg and only really gets back into because she gets into the superhero business. If they do a fourth Spider-Man movie with Toby introducing mayday Parker would be a wise move.

Under the current climate of women led films, this is one I'd really love to see. Him losing a leg comes with the superhero territory. We have all of these dangerous villains yet no one is maimed or killed but them. That would be as good as the Gwen death at the theater.


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But he stood up for himself. He “developed a lot more than a backbone” to quote a cartoon and it wasn’t because of a symbiote.
Spectacular Spider-Man illustrates this better than the movies for me. Pete is definitely shyt on but he isn’t some wallflower who never stands up for himself either.

That said, that scene is perfect. Captures the dichotomy of his life. And the burden and responsibility.

Spectacular Spider-man is excellent and is probably the best Spider-Man animated series before into the spider verse. Yeah, the portrayal of peter in high school in spectacular is closer to the comic books than anything else. Peter was always more of a smart ass with his reactions to people in high school. He was always more of an average dude in high school than a social outcast. The flash in the Disney movies is terrible.
 

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Spectacular Spider-man is excellent and is probably the best Spider-Man animated series before into the spider verse. Yeah, the portrayal of peter in high school in spectacular is closer to the comic books than anything else. Peter was always more of a smart ass with his reactions to people in high school. He was always more of an average dude in high school than a social outcast. The flash in the Disney movies is terrible.
Thank you! Idk why more people don’t understand this. The stereotypical view of Peter is that he’s a stereotypical nerd. When in reality he was a smart ass who stayed to himself because he didn’t think he’d fit in. And anytime someone clowned him he’d have something smart to say under his breath. Only once he got to college did he start poking his chest out.


But sure enough so many people believe he was this revenge of the nerd type dweeb
 

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Thank you! Idk why more people don’t understand this. The stereotypical view of Peter is that he’s a stereotypical nerd. When in reality he was a smart ass who stayed to himself because he didn’t think he’d fit in. And anytime someone clowned him he’d have something smart to say under his breath. Only once he got to college did he start poking his chest out.


But sure enough so many people believe he was this revenge of the nerd type dweeb

That is because people want to envision Peter as the ultimate underdog in every aspect of his life when he wasn’t. Flash Thompson even told him that they messed with him because they thought he was stuck up and actively ignored them always denying any efforts to get to know them because he was smarter than them. Not knowing it was because he was Spider-Man he could interact with them socially like his classmates wanted resulted in the negative interactions he got. I mean a stereotypical nerd isn’t pulling Gwen Stacey, Betty Bryant, and Mary Jane being a stereotypical nerd
 

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That is because people want to envision Peter as the ultimate underdog in every aspect of his life when he wasn’t. Flash Thompson even told him that they messed with him because they thought he was stuck up and actively ignored them always denying any efforts to get to know them because he was smarter than them. Not knowing it was because he was Spider-Man he could interact with them socially like his classmates wanted resulted in the negative interactions he got. I mean a stereotypical nerd isn’t pulling Gwen Stacey, Betty Bryant, and Mary Jane being a stereotypical nerd
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Natural webs versus creating wet cement as webs

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The thought of a teenager who can't afford anything building web shooters is laughable. Raimi actually noted that it would be ridiculous for a kid without a job to create webs that are strong as steel and would constantly refill them, without a proper job.

Why chemicals are cheap and peter is suppose to be a genius making a web solution wouldn't cost that much money, its not like he has to buy it from a company

 
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That is because people want to envision Peter as the ultimate underdog in every aspect of his life when he wasn’t. Flash Thompson even told him that they messed with him because they thought he was stuck up and actively ignored them always denying any efforts to get to know them because he was smarter than them. Not knowing it was because he was Spider-Man he could interact with them socially like his classmates wanted resulted in the negative interactions he got. I mean a stereotypical nerd isn’t pulling Gwen Stacey, Betty Bryant, and Mary Jane being a stereotypical nerd

Spider-Man was a nerd in high school like most comic book readers who grew out of it was adults

most people grew up with the 90's animated series version of Peter Parker not the nerdy four eyed loser in high school from the 1960 comics nobody has ever read
 

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Why chemicals are cheap and peter is suppose to be a genius making a web solution wouldn't cost that much money, its not like he has to buy it from a company



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Right, malleable webs that are strong as steel, can expand to unimaginable sizes and are ejected from a small hole. That's magic, not engineering.
 

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Spider-Man was a nerd in high school like most comic book readers who grew out of it was adults

most people grew up with the 90's animated series version of Peter Parker not the nerdy four eyed loser in high school from the 1960 comics nobody has ever read

nah, more people watched the sam rami Spider-Man movies than watched the Spider-Man tas. Spider-man being the four eyed nerd becomes the norm with those movies.
 
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