Can someone explain to me how Bobby Brown went from opener to headliner on the NE Heartbreak tour?

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thats always struck me as unheard of. Imagine Ye, Jay, Drake, Wayne headlining a tour to have the opening act take their spot...

I understand Don’t Be Cruel got bigger over time but damn...

How does that work?
Who tells the headliner that they are no longer closing the tour named after them?
Are there any other cases like that?
 

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He shouldn't have been opening for them period at that point...

But the record label wanted to capitalize off their combined success so I get it:ehh:
 

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This shyt is common in Rock but usually the headliner getting outplayed so they have the opener replaced.

Jimi Hendrix was opening for Jefferson Airplanes for a few shows in San Francisco and it came to a point where they refused to follow him..this was after Monterrey in 1967 so he wasn't burned out yet and going all out with the showmanship.

Deep Purple was shytting over Cream and they got removed from the tour.
 

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He shouldn't have been opening for them period at that point...

But the record label wanted to capitalize off their combined success so I get it:ehh:


How should he have not been opening for them the tour Started in Sept 88 Bobby only had Don't Be Cruel and Girlfriend as hit records , My Prerogative video didn't hit yet , New Edition had just headline three tours and had If It isn't love out.

But to answer @thedevilyouknow question

Once that My Prerogative song hit radio and that video hit it was game over MTV picked that shyt up and then with 25 mins Bobby was killing Al B Sure and New Edition off the stage



This is pre gumby Bobby he was smoking them off the stage with RAW ENERGY and soul man tricks i mean he was an ill trained soldier on the stage so he wasn't a newbie to the stage and with natural charisma and energy and then the songs it was wrap.

Also New Edition Heartbreak LP underperformed so after If it Isn't Love none of the other singles crossed over and hit like Bobby's singles.

Then word of mouth started to spread about Bobby stage show and with the MTV exposure it was easy money.

But Bobby was co headlining because he wasn't going to do the second leg of the show so Juanita Stephens and Al Haymon came to an agreement that was fair where Bobby would get 50 mins and him and AL B Sure would flip and also Bobby and NE would co headline the second leg of the Heartbreak tour if Bobby stayed on and that Bobby got more money for his Don't Be Cruel tour which kicked off a month after the Heartbreak tour.

But New Edition did officially open for Bobby on the Budweiser Superfest tour whenever they played stadiums also, like the Giants stadium show



New Edition needs to get together and release these concerts on DVD or stream them shyts
 
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How should he have not been opening for them the tour Started in Sept 88 Bobby only had Don't Be Cruel and Girlfriend as hit records , My Prerogative video didn't hit yet , New Edition had just headline three tours and had If It isn't love out.

But to answer @thedevilyouknow question

Once that My Prerogative song hit radio and that video hit it was game over MTV picked that shyt up and then with 25 mins Bobby was killing Al B Sure and New Edition off the stage



This is pre gumby Bobby he was smoking them off the stage with RAW ENERGY and soul man tricks i mean he was an ill trained soldier on the stage so he wasn't a newbie to the stage and with natural charisma and energy and then the songs it was wrap.

Also New Edition Heartbreak LP underperformed so after If it Isn't Love none of the other singles crossed over and hit like Bobby's singles.

Then word of mouth started to spread about Bobby stage show and with the MTV exposure it was easy money.

But Bobby was co headlining because he wasn't going to do the second leg of the show so Juanita Stephens and Al Haymon came to an agreement that was fair where Bobby would get 50 mins and him and AL B Sure would flip and also Bobby and NE would co headline the second leg of the Heartbreak tour if Bobby stayed on and that Bobby got more money for his Don't Be Cruel tour which kicked off a month after the Heartbreak tour.

But New Edition did officially open for Bobby on the Budweiser Superfest tour whenever they played stadiums also, like the Giants stadium show



New Edition needs to get together and release these concerts on DVD or stream them shyts


It’s too bad we don’t have solid footage of these monumental black tours. This nikka Bob man smh This guy used to try to kill himself on stage singing live, doing choreography then doing his solo shyt

This nikka should have fukked with Whitney and left it at that. nikka spent the majority of his 20s being stupid
 

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It’s too bad we don’t have solid footage of these monumental black tours. This nikka Bob man smh This guy used to try to kill himself on stage singing live, doing choreography then doing his solo shyt

This nikka should have fukked with Whitney and left it at that. nikka spent the majority of his 20s being stupid

It sucks because youtube in 05 and 06 had mad footage and shyt but once google bought it shyt went away to dust land
 

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How should he have not been opening for them the tour Started in Sept 88 Bobby only had Don't Be Cruel and Girlfriend as hit records , My Prerogative video didn't hit yet , New Edition had just headline three tours and had If It isn't love out.

But to answer @thedevilyouknow question

Once that My Prerogative song hit radio and that video hit it was game over MTV picked that shyt up and then with 25 mins Bobby was killing Al B Sure and New Edition off the stage



This is pre gumby Bobby he was smoking them off the stage with RAW ENERGY and soul man tricks i mean he was an ill trained soldier on the stage so he wasn't a newbie to the stage and with natural charisma and energy and then the songs it was wrap.

Also New Edition Heartbreak LP underperformed so after If it Isn't Love none of the other singles crossed over and hit like Bobby's singles.

Then word of mouth started to spread about Bobby stage show and with the MTV exposure it was easy money.

But Bobby was co headlining because he wasn't going to do the second leg of the show so Juanita Stephens and Al Haymon came to an agreement that was fair where Bobby would get 50 mins and him and AL B Sure would flip and also Bobby and NE would co headline the second leg of the Heartbreak tour if Bobby stayed on and that Bobby got more money for his Don't Be Cruel tour which kicked off a month after the Heartbreak tour.

But New Edition did officially open for Bobby on the Budweiser Superfest tour whenever they played stadiums also, like the Giants stadium show



New Edition needs to get together and release these concerts on DVD or stream them shyts


Can You Stand the Rain (#1) was a bigger hit than If It Isn’t Love (#2). And NE Heartbreak peaked at #13, which is far from a flop.

Bobby was the bigger act, but the difference (at least as it relates to sales) wasn’t as dramatic as you’re making it. I know for damn sure my big sis and her home girl, and a lot of other kids, were buying New Balances together, then trading one shoe with each other so they could mismatch the colors, like in that damn Heartbreak video.
 

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Can You Stand the Rain (#1) was a bigger hit than If It Isn’t Love (#2). And NE Heartbreak peaked at #13, which is far from a flop.

Bobby was the bigger act, but the difference (at least as it relates to sales) wasn’t as dramatic as you’re making it. I know for damn sure my big sis and her home girl, and a lot of other kids, were buying New Balances together, then trading one shoe with each other so they could mismatch the colors, like in that damn Heartbreak video.


Dog stop it after if it isn't love no other single from that album hit the top 40 singles chart ok don't use r&b sales .. and the sales difference was HUGE not even close , MCA was dissappointed in the Heartbreak because what Bobby did was really what MCA taught New Edition was suppose to do since Jam and Lewis produced the whole LP and came off Janet Jackson fame, while Bobby was working with up and comers who were just getting real hit records by late 87 when recording for his album happened.

Are you going to argue with Ricky Bell who was in NE


Where he tells you Heartbreak didn't hit at the time


Ralph Tresvant and New Edition in 89 telling you how the second single killed momentum


I am not rewriting history
 

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Dog stop it after if it isn't love no other single from that album hit the top 40 ok don't use r&b sales .. and the sales difference was HUGE not even close , MCA was dissappointed in the Heartbreak because what Bobby did was really what MCA taught New Edition was suppose to do since Jam and Lewis produced the whole LP and came off Janet Jackson fame, while Bobby was working with up and comers who were just getting real hit records by late 87 when recording for his album happened.


Are you going to argue with Ricky Bell who was in NE


Where he tells you Heartbreak didn't hit at the time


I’m not arguing with Ricky or with you. Lol. Notice I said Bobby was clearly the bigger act. I’m simply pointing out that NE still resonated, both from a standpoint of relevance on the charts and culture.

That said, no one was bigger than Bobby at that time. If stating it that way makes you feel better :yeshrug:.
 
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