Can Bangkok Curb Prostitution? And Should It?

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Can Bangkok Curb Prostitution? And Should It?
Thailand’s first female minister of tourism wants the sex trade banned. Critics say the plan is shortsighted.

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A Bangkok go-go dancer waits for customers. (Damir Sagolj/Reuters)
Tourists flock to Thailand for its temples and beaches, but also for its sex workers. From go-go girls to ladyboys, Thai cities and resorts like Bangkok and Pattaya are known as hubs of the Southeast Asian sex trade, despite the fact that prostitution has been illegal in Thailand since 1960.

It’s clear many officials and law enforcement have turned a blind eye for decades. This could be changing. Thailand’s first female minister of tourism, Kobkarn Wattanavrangkul, recently called for an end to the debauchery. “We want Thailand to be about quality tourism,” she
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Reuters. “We want the sex industry gone.”

Kobkarn’s proclamation came after police raided dozens of brothels last month, though only one establishment was shut down, with 100 workers arrested, including 15 who were underage.

The minister’s policies jibe well with those of the military junta that came to power via a coup in 2014 and appointed her soon after. Junta rhetoric has emphasized how corruption in the country must be eliminated. Corruption plays a significant role in keeping the sex trade afloat, as owners of venues pay a variety of bribes—even daily—to police and local officials to stay in business.

Advocates for sex workers say the plan to shutter their trade would impoverish them. While Thailand’s minimum wage is 300 baht ($8.59) a day, street prostitute can earn, per transaction, around 1,200 baht ($34). For bar-based go-go girls, the fee is around $85.

The advocates emphasize that people work in the business out of necessity, not desire. “[They] only lack opportunities, which made them undertake [this] work in the first place,” Chantawipa Apisuk, director of an NGO that provides assistance to Thai sex workers, told the Bangkok Post. Chantawipa supports the legalization of prostitution for the official protections it would afford workers, while other activists say they welcome the ban—but only if the government has jobs ready for the newly unemployed.

Ten percent of Thailand’s GDP comes from tourism. While Thai men are the sex industry’s most habitual customers, foreigners bring in a good amount of business. One economist estimated that Thailand’s “shadow economy”—of which the sex trade is a part, along with other illegal activities like gambling as well as informal businesses such as street food carts—made up around 40 percent of real GDP in 2014. As such, banning the sex trade could have significant consequences not only for the workers and recipients of bribes, but the economy as a whole.

As Chantawipa said, “If you want to know how much this industry supports our country’s tourism, get sex workers to go on strike for a day. Everybody would lose it.”

Can Bangkok Curb Prostitution? And Should It?
 

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That would hurt their tourism industry ... she should focus on making it safer..get the corruption,drugs and organised crime out of it..she must be a feminist

feminists love to say" my body my choice" but when disadvantaged women want to use that choice to make money the guns come out real quick
 

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That's gotta be like playing Russian roulette if your crazy enough to get a prostitute in Thailand probably a 90 percent chance it ends up being a dude full of aids
 

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Thailand should move away from that tourism based economy. Well they already started, but they need to go further. In the 80's they let pedophiles run wild across the country because stopping them would've caused damage to the tourism industry.
 

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Kobkarn’s proclamation came after police raided dozens of brothels last month, though only one establishment was shut down, with 100 workers arrested, including 15 who were underage.

People on thai-related sites say they only shut down one club, "Dr. BJ's Nuru Salon" because it was entirely too fukking flagrant, and had gotten too much recognition including a Vice article.

Advocates for sex workers say the plan to shutter their trade would impoverish them. While Thailand’s minimum wage is 300 baht ($8.59) a day, street prostitute can earn, per transaction, around 1,200 baht ($34). For bar-based go-go girls, the fee is around $85.

The advocates emphasize that people work in the business out of necessity, not desire. “[They] only lack opportunities, which made them undertake [this] work in the first place,” Chantawipa Apisuk, director of an NGO that provides assistance to Thai sex workers, told the Bangkok Post. Chantawipa supports the legalization of prostitution for the official protections it would afford workers, while other activists say they welcome the ban—but only if the government has jobs ready for the newly unemployed.

Crazy how they contradict themselves right after saying something. Is it necessity or is it the giant checks that make women cool with working in the prostitution industry?

When you can turn a single trick for 10 times daily wage, you're never going to be able to stop people from taking that opportunity. How many women you know in the west that would be willing to buss it open for an hour for $500?
 

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Thailand should move away from that tourism based economy. Well they already started, but they need to go further. In the 80's they let pedophiles run wild across the country because stopping them would've caused damage to the tourism industry.

Thailand relies on tourism though. What are they going to produce to make up the losses from giving up their tourist industry?
 

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but anyway..endign this shyt would just hurt Thailand's economy

Thailand has has NINETEEN military coups since 1932, twelve of them successful. When I was there a few years back, they had just had a democratically elected government followed by another democratic election for THE FIRST TIME EVER. Of course, it was immediately followed by a military coup, then an election where the same party won, then a judicial coup, then a pseudo-democratic election where the military "convinced" certain people to run the government together, then massive riots eventually resulting in a real democratic election where that same party won again, then another military coup, which brings us where we are today.

Basically, the military has more power than anyone else in Thailand. They're corrupt as hell and they serve the interests of the elites. Whenever someone gets into power who plays to the masses and won't toe the military's line, the military throws them out of power.




Thailand should move away from that tourism based economy. Well they already started, but they need to go further. In the 80's they let pedophiles run wild across the country because stopping them would've caused damage to the tourism industry.

Thailand relies on tourism though. What are they going to produce to make up the losses from giving up their tourist industry?

They made their country a cesspool playground because they had no alternative. Maybe they have enough money to not sell their women as whores.

I read that 3% of Thailand's entire GDP was the sex industry. But they have a big economy and a ton of resources. If they actually got around to developing their other stuff, they'd be in great shape. But they have a WOAT educational system and an ultra-corrupt government. It's really stupid that they should be in the position they're in with all their advantages, but it's absolutely the fault of the government and of the general public's desire to usually just go with the system (the surprising riots of 2008-2010 a very rare exception) rather than fighting against the corruption and moral cesspool.
 

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Thailand has has NINETEEN military coups since 1932, twelve of them successful. When I was there a few years back, they had just had a democratically elected government followed by another democratic election for THE FIRST TIME EVER. Of course, it was immediately followed by a military coup, then an election where the same party won, then a judicial coup, then a pseudo-democratic election where the military "convinced" certain people to run the government together, then massive riots eventually resulting in a real democratic election where that same party won again, then another military coup, which brings us where we are today.

Basically, the military has more power than anyone else in Thailand. They're corrupt as hell and they serve the interests of the elites. Whenever someone gets into power who plays to the masses and won't toe the military's line, the military throws them out of power.










I read that 3% of Thailand's entire GDP was the sex industry. But they have a big economy and a ton of resources. If they actually got around to developing their other stuff, they'd be in great shape. But they have a WOAT educational system and an ultra-corrupt government. It's really stupid that they should be in the position they're in with all their advantages, but it's absolutely the fault of the government and of the general public's desire to usually just go with the system (the surprising riots of 2008-2010 a very rare exception) rather than fighting against the corruption and moral cesspool.
Cacs need their underage girls and i guess they need the money.
 

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They should stop it, after I make my first visit there

But they seriously should, it's better in the long run even tho it will hurt for a bit

I say that from what I've seen in Tijuana

Tijuana use to cater to American debouchery but the drug wars made people stop coming

The drug killings have slowed down a lot but the debauchery seeking tourists never came back and the truth is Tijuana is developing nicely, a lot of nice restaurants and nice hotels and condos, I was very impressed last time I went
 

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They should stop it, after I make my first visit there

But they seriously should, it's better in the long run even tho it will hurt for a bit

I say that from what I've seen in Tijuana

Tijuana use to cater to American debouchery but the drug wars made people stop coming

The drug killings have slowed down a lot but the debauchery seeking tourists never came back and the truth is Tijuana is developing nicely, a lot of nice restaurants and nice hotels and condos, I was very impressed last time I went


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