Can athletes and entertainers be compared to Africans who sold us out during slavery?

[Dzali OG]

But that's the point...look at the Chinese or the Mexicans...

They say...work hard, go to the US, open a restaurant/business etc...and then when you get set up you hire your own and pass the business down through the family and create generational wealth.

But these athletes have 1/1000000 god given talent and athleticism. And even then an injury can take that away before they even get to cash it in.

Not only that...but you aren't guaranteed to pass that talent down.

So by trying to make these athletes (and entertainers to a lesser degree) the driving forces of our community...we're shooting ourselves in the foot.

You can hand a restruant or a store or hell even a drug empire down to your kids...and they have a chance to flip it into more than you could ever make it.

Think about it...with the average pro athlete/rapper/actor...the breadwinning starts and ENDS with them. You can't hand your career to your kids and have them run with what you built.

Almost accurate, but you miss where mexican and chinese power come from. Their prominent members make POLITICAL moves. Thus providing them with REAL POWER.

You mention how the athletes can get hurt and miss their opportunity to make money. That's because they've just been getting paid and not making any moves. They should have been established guaranteed contracts! But they're so busy trying to not fukk up their check...or outright c00ning...they haven't made the progress they should have.

Being they can't pass their athletic blessings to their kids, they should be working that much harder to make power moves.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Just reading on alot of slave revolts...It seems to be successful you have to get rid of the people that are prone to sell you out first. They are in the way of freedom.

BINGO

NO c00nS LEFT BEHIND

In the revolts against colonialism in my country majority of the casualties of war were house negroes. They were killed by the thousands. They had no place in an "independent" Kenya. The fighters understood this. It's like purging poison

now I'm not advocating we start murdering people but I'm gonna say that historically if you can't wake up you will get "left behind" as collateral damage.

 

[cornercommission2k12]

WRONG

- John Henrik Clarke

What exactly am I wrong about?!

Slave system, was equivalent to what we call prison systems now. You do wrong, you had to work to pay off your debt, you fight in a war, you get caught you were a p.o.w, you had to work. If you were a wanderer and wanted to join a tribe or if a group of people wanted to join a town or village they had to work in order to stay in that town. This practice was done all over the world.

This was not slavery in the chattel slavery in the antebellum south sense as we experienced, but this practice of free labor for food, shelter, trade etc was in fact practiced all over the world.

Once many africans like queen nzinga, king azana, queen tinubu, realized indentured servitude turned into some sick shyt where people where getting burned lynched and didn't have the ability to have the same rights as the whites, they fought wars to end slavery.

This form of slavery or indentured servitude took place in Europe especially with the Romans and greeks, it took place in Asia with the HAN and QIN dynasties, even took place in the americas with the native tribes. Africans did no different than the rest of the world was doing, trading bodies for guns food etc. So they didn't sell anyone out. They expected for their love ones to return once the servitude was completed. They didn't know the sick shyt in america was going to take place.

 

[Dzali OG]

Stupid argument OP. At the end of the day the problem is people such as yourself who give these athletes and entertainers more power than they have. Everything those athletes earn or have been given can be taken away at any second, they are one false rape accusation away from being stripped of their money and back in their old neighborhood. Like we the common everyday man don't have the ability to learn Coding for free off Google and make our own apps that can make millions and employ our friends and get people out the hood. fukk I look like begging Lebron for a check for doing nothing? Up your worth to society.

fukk are you talking about? Me nor anyone else is asking for a "check" from Lebron!

I'm saying our prominent members of our group should do what the prominent members of every other group have done and use their positioning to establish some long-term power and benefits which will trickle down to the entire group.

"More power than they have"...nikka they have MONEY! In this capitalist society they have at least half of what they need to make moves. They have a product or service that cac America is buying! Any smart or insightful person would know to maneuver that into power.

There comes a time when you have to drop your nuts breh!

 

[Crude Abolitionist]

BINGO

NO c00nS LEFT BEHIND

In the revolts against colonialism in my country majority of the casualties of war were house negroes. They were killed by the thousands. They had no place in an "independent" Kenya. The fighters understood this. It's like purging poison

now I'm not advocating we start murdering people but I'm gonna say that historically if you can't wake up you will get "left behind" as collateral damage.

Jason Whitlock has to go. Any black man on TV talking down on his race need to take a trip to Belize if you catch my drift...

 

[Dzali OG]

Ya'll piss me off begging for athletes and entertainers to build your shyt.

It's every man for them self to you huh?

Wonder why one man can't beat a group brehs....

nikka this is a fukking "Race" and a race is a competition. A team competition at that. We the only mufukkas acting dumb like "mannnnn...it's every nikka for himself, get your's breh".

While cacs, Asians, Hispanics, etc., playing team ball on us. 5 on 1 and we wondering why we losing?

At the same time, they wouldn't be building "our" shyt, they would be building all of our including THEIR shyt. Some long term shyt.

 

[Dzali OG]

nikka NO

what the fukk kinda comparison is that? the trans-Atlantic slave trade is not even in the same dimension as this shyt. brehs were sold into what was assumed to be indentured servitude, not chattel slavery. you know what, no. ANY comparison of this to ANY slavery is fukking retarded. that shyt was no joke. foh with this fukkery

Not the slavery aspect.

I'm talking about the "getting yours" and damn the group OR long term thinking.

 

[Dzali OG]

Speaking of slavery we still have slavery today.

Thinking heavily about attending the Millions for Prisoners (slaves) Human Rights March in Washington DC.

Millions for Prisoners Human Rights

We have to amend the 13th amendment. Mass incarceration = SLAVERY.

Oh yeah, that's definitely on the agenda.

 

[Dzali OG]

Africans didn't "sell us out" in the slave trade

Africans participated in the same slave system that the entire planet participated in. I don't know why black people act as if slavery was isolated to just us. It happened everywhere, literally.

And there was a clear distinction between what africans thought would be required in slavery, vs what actually took place. People need to research the rebellions on the african continent against slavery once they found out what was happening. If it was a situation where africans in america believed they somehow got betrayed by their own people, you have to explain why most rebellions in america led to blacks wanting to go back to africa, why in the slave journals the need was still to go home, why all the ships that were taken over by slaves turned around and went back to africa. Apparently someone didn't feel like they were "sold out" by they own.

So many wrongs in this don't know where to begin...

Nowhere on this planet were slaves treated as african americans. So yes the kind we endured was isolated to us!

Where else would rebelling slaves want to go? Of course they want to return to Africa, not their same location more than likely. Not the same village or where they got scooped up.

 

[Dzali OG]

That has nothing to do with them "selling us out" breh

In the case of rappers, how many of them know their making detrimental music but continue doing it for the check?

Perhaps "irresponsible" is a better description for you.

 

[JLova]

That's a lot to put on an athlete or entertainer. I'm more upset at the athletes/entertainers who publicly shyt on black people. The Toms? Can't stand them. They should be stoned to death.

Think black folk with means should do more but only for those who deserve it.

 

[Dzali OG]

What exactly am I wrong about?!

Slave system, was equivalent to what we call prison systems now. You do wrong, you had to work to pay off your debt, you fight in a war, you get caught you were a p.o.w, you had to work. If you were a wanderer and wanted to join a tribe or if a group of people wanted to join a town or village they had to work in order to stay in that town. This practice was done all over the world.

This was not slavery in the chattel slavery in the antebellum south sense as we experienced, but this practice of free labor for food, shelter, trade etc was in fact practiced all over the world.

Once many africans like queen nzinga, king azana, queen tinubu, realized indentured servitude turned into some sick shyt where people where getting burned lynched and didn't have the ability to have the same rights as the whites, they fought wars to end slavery.

This form of slavery or indentured servitude took place in Europe especially with the Romans and greeks, it took place in Asia with the HAN and QIN dynasties, even took place in the americas with the native tribes. Africans did no different than the rest of the world was doing, trading bodies for guns food etc. So they didn't sell anyone out. They expected for their love ones to return once the servitude was completed. They didn't know the sick shyt in america was going to take place.

I had something but forgot it....

 

[Crude Abolitionist]

What exactly am I wrong about?!

Slave system, was equivalent to what we call prison systems now. You do wrong, you had to work to pay off your debt, you fight in a war, you get caught you were a p.o.w, you had to work. If you were a wanderer and wanted to join a tribe or if a group of people wanted to join a town or village they had to work in order to stay in that town. This practice was done all over the world.

This was not slavery in the chattel slavery in the antebellum south sense as we experienced, but this practice of free labor for food, shelter, trade etc was in fact practiced all over the world.

Once many africans like queen nzinga, king azana, queen tinubu, realized indentured servitude turned into some sick shyt where people where getting burned lynched and didn't have the ability to have the same rights as the whites, they fought wars to end slavery.

This form of slavery or indentured servitude took place in Europe especially with the Romans and greeks, it took place in Asia with the HAN and QIN dynasties, even took place in the americas with the native tribes. Africans did no different than the rest of the world was doing, trading bodies for guns food etc. So they didn't sell anyone out. They expected for their love ones to return once the servitude was completed. They didn't know the sick shyt in america was going to take place.

I am tripping.

I apologize.

 

[Dzali OG]

That's a lot to put on an athlete or entertainer. I'm more upset at the athletes/entertainers who publicly shyt on black people. The Toms? Can't stand them. They should be stoned to death.

Think black folk with means should do more but only for those who deserve it.

Yeah but we need to demand more of our prominent members. They may just want to remain children who play a game forever, but we can't allow that.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Its a good question. At this point I'm leaning towards yes

This site has officially jumped the shark... no one with this type of logic is built to last...... You new nikkas are really the equivalent of 2017 white women..... and that's real