Can an informed Coli breh please put me on to Big Daddy Kane's Legacy?

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Ironically I been on a 80’s hip hop binge and was listening to Kane:ehh:


Dude was ahead of his time with the flow and wordplay, smooth but still hard while also dropping jewels.


Like @Get These Nets said he started catering to the ladies too much but his style is definitely influential even to this day.


This is my favorite Kane joint, his wordplay is crazy and the he rode the beat is next level
 

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BIG DADDY MATADOR KANE

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I always gotta show love to this track even though hearing Kane say "Mister Cee put your weight on it" sounds a little :scust: given Cee's tranny run-ins


hilarious.

He had the Kane vs Dolemite joint on that album,right?

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Kane was that dude. Openly paid homage to those who influenced him
 

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I assume this song pumped in cars driving through New York in 1988?
If so - fukking phenomenal!
The instrumental holds up in 2020, as does the flow and lyric patterns.

Jesus Christ. Hearing this at 38 is different then at 7. As a man, this song is so fukking impressive!

Please give it a new listen now!


Saw him perform this live last year after listening to this track for years.
shyt was so beautiful man
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Thanks for this, never seen it before
:damn:

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Dope. Oh man. It's like life - a dissapointment or set back and then boom - keep going forward with style.

Trying to figure out what track that is. Anyone know? Or is it a freestyle?
 

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Can an informed Coli breh please put me on to Big Daddy Kane's Legacy?

I Know Smooth Operator, Ain't no half steppin. Later Count Macula.

What are his top 5 tracks?

Is he a goat? And why if so?

Did he fall off? If so, why?

I remember seeing a trailer for a documentary saying how things didn't pop off business wise for him and I think he may have been a sex addict and that derailed him. Something about him dealing with alot of women and throwing him off.

What's his place in hip hop history?

He's one of the greats. My personal favorites are Raw (remix) and Warm it Up Kane.

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They talk a little about him falling off here. Kane seems pretty at peace with his career.

Big Daddy Kane was also courted by one of hip-hop’s hottest labels of the 1990s: In 1996, Suge Knight tried to sign Kane to Death Row Records. “Suge flew me out. Me, him, and Tupac went to Vegas and we hung out. He even offered me more money than I asked for,” Kane remembers. “It just didn’t seem right. It was like a situation where I asked for $500,000 and Suge said, ‘I can’t give you less than a million. I don’t know how you’re doing right now, I don’t want to get in your personal business, but if you need something I can have my accountant cut you a check for $100,000 in the morning so you can have something in your pocket.’ That just didn’t sound right to me. I had heard these rumors about this and that. That type of offer just made me feel like, OK, these rumors must be true, I ain’t getting caught up in the bullshyt. Nah, I’m good.”

Rumors surfaced a few years later that Kane was signing to Roc-A-Fella Records after Jay Z, who toured with Kane in the early 1990s, brought him onstage at Hot 97’s Summer Jam. Hot 97’s Angie Martinez even announced on the air that it was a done deal. It was a great story: Brooklyn’s reigning king backing the legend who gave him his big break. But it wasn’t true. “I was going to correct [the rumor], but then I noticed that everyone was calling me, like, ‘Yo, we want you to do a feature,’” Kane says. “I just ran with it to get that bread.”

Why Big Daddy Kane needed a comeback in the first place is an established part of hip-hop folklore: The Casanova guise engulfed him following his beloved sophomore album, 1989’s It’s a Big Daddy Thing. Afterward he made spoken-word love jams with Barry White. He emerged shirtless — bedroom eyes, knowing wink — on the cover of his next album, Taste of Chocolate. He appeared with Madonna in her infamous Sex book and posed for the June 1991 issue of Playgirl.

“Nobody raised that question to me: ‘Do you think there is going to be a backlash?’ It wasn’t until it happened,” says Eugene Shelton, Kane’s publicist at the time of the Playgirl shoot. “But there was some backlash to it. Burt Reynolds and other celebrities had posed nude in women’s magazines, but many people looked at Playgirl as a magazine targeted to gay men.”

More issues factored into Kane’s descent. He rushed his next two albums to fulfill his five-album contract. “I just wanted to get the hell off this label, so I made songs with people I liked,” he says of Taste of Chocolate. “I was a Barry White fan. I was a Dolemite fan. I thought Barbara Weathers was fine.”

And 1991’s Prince of Darkness?

Prince of Darkness? I don’t know what the hell I was doing.”

Kane noticed concert bookings were down. He also heard the whispers that he’d fallen off. So he pledged a return to his roots on his next album, hooking up with emerging producers such as Easy Mo Bee, Large Professor, and the Trackmasters for 1993’s Looks Like a Job For…. But it was too late. Fans had moved on, and the music had passed him by.

“Production-wise, Looks Like a Job For… is an incredible album. I think that the weak point of the album was really me,” Kane says. “Had I listened to the radio and saw how much the game had changed, I would have noticed that people weren’t rhyming ahead of the beats anymore. Everybody was rhyming so much slower and falling behind the beat. My style really sounded aged. It sounded old.”

He was comfortable with his place in history, and so around the turn of the century, he retreated from New York, settling in North Carolina. To learn more about Kane’s life in the Tar Heel State, I called the rapper Phonte, formerly of the North Carolina group Little Brother. He remembers seeing Kane in Durham, sometimes CD shopping at the now-shuttered record store Millennium Music or performing at small clubs. One night during a set at Cat’s Cradle, Kane spotted Phonte in the crowd. In between songs Kane announced, “Everybody in here, y’all make some noise for Little Brother.” The group later collaborated with Kane on “Welcome to Durham.”

“He was my biggest singular influence. I told him, ‘You are the reason I rap,’” Phonte says.

How did Kane react?

“He was Kane,” Phonte recalls. “He was cool, like, ‘Thank you, brother.’”

“A buddy of mine named Josh hung with Kane a lot,” Phonte says. “He had a conversation with Kane once where he was like, ‘Yo, Kane, you still got it. Why don’t you come [back] out? Dude, you can be Jay Z.’ He says that Kane looked at him and told him, ‘Man, I already been Jay Z.’ That was a real sobering moment for me. From my estimation, he’s a guy who has found his peace.”
 

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Glad someone asked the question and made this thread as I needed educating on Kane too

Good stuff. There's so much hip hop history, and I know people here lived through all eras and can share their valuable perspectives.

It's part of why I think The Coli is so great. Alot of great people here. Alot!
 

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I always gotta show love to this track even though hearing Kane say "Mister Cee put your weight on it" sounds a little :scust: given Cee's tranny run-ins



That girl's dress in the back, is it just me or does it look like it's made out of cassette tape? Or was it made to look like that?
 

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Classic posse cut. Although I still prefer KGR's verse a bit over BDK. Kane still had a very good verse.

 

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That girl's dress in the back, is it just me or does it look like it's made out of cassette tape? Or was it made to look like that?

*pulls compact disc down off shelf*

The image on YouTube is damn near clearer than what's on the actual album cover so I have no idea
 

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*pulls compact disc down off shelf*

Nice!

The image on YouTube is damn near clearer than what's on the actual album cover so I have no idea

Ha word, maybe the printing quality.

On a crazy note Rapper Cage said this in an interview -



You don't have to speak on it, (but I gotta ask).
Your mental health is a common theme in your music. Is it true though, you once tired to hang yourself with shoe laces [while at "the lodge" (Stoney Lodge)]?

Yes, and my big daddy kane tape.
a line from depart from me....
big daddy kane a taste of chocolate/wrapped the tape around the door knob and hung myself off it
 
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