Can AA dos, & Africans work together to build Africa w/Dr. Mumbi

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Not only backed by governments, whites be hooking Indians and Asians up. They dont do that with Africans and Caribbeans
This isn't completely true. Used to work in bank ALL immigrants have access to certain govt grants, funding..even kick backs when settling. Other groups do have established networks, and communities here, and abroad to give further assistance, though.
 

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Building in America >>>>

I'm still waiting for us to get "paid back" for the fights we fought here to make things better for all "colored people"

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This ain't no war, but, it seems to be offensive to say that we don't have enough to give regardless of what people thing we're supposed to do



Serious question

Do you understand the actual context of Asian immigrants and their business acumen in America?

Do you understand the actual black American economic situation?

Asians are being backed by governments to come over here and take over. Black people are losing rights and wealth precipitously.


Yep.

Yep.

-Wait a sec. How much spending power do we have again?? Some of that $$ can't go towards nothing in Africa instead of weaves, Jordans, XBox, and the latest fashion trends. This issue is nothing new, this is something we were supposed to have been doing. Now if someone don't wanna chip in and help build, well then that's on them.
http://fortune.com
raceAhead: A New Nielsen Report Puts Black Buying Power at $1.2 Trillion


-The reason why we are losing rights is also due to who we/they put in office. Us losing rights just didn't fly out of thin air. For example, look at the Civil Rights Act 64' and realize why it was updated for another community regardless of race. So now there are folks who ain't even supposed to have access to the CRA getting benefits off it due to they gender identity or whatever issues. Look at the administration and who was potus at the time that made that happen and you'll see many blacks supported him due to his race. And this current administration ain't helping either by chipping away at the CRA based on schools and race. The sooner many of us realize neither side is....... "for us"..... when it comes to these issues, then the better.
 

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This isn't completely true. Used to work in bank ALL immigrants have access to certain govt grants, funding..even kick backs when settling. Other groups do have established networks, and communities here, and abroad to give further assistance, though.
Like what for example?
 

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Yep.

Yep.

-Wait a sec. How much spending power do we have again?? Some of that $$ can't go towards nothing in Africa instead of weaves, Jordans, XBox, and the latest fashion trends. This issue is nothing new, this is something we were supposed to have been doing. Now if someone don't wanna chip in and help build, well then that's on them.
http://fortune.com
raceAhead: A New Nielsen Report Puts Black Buying Power at $1.2 Trillion


-The reason why we are losing rights is also due to who we/they put in office. Us losing rights just didn't fly out of thin air. For example, look at the Civil Rights Act 64' and realize why it was updated for another community regardless of race. So now there are folks who ain't even supposed to have access to the CRA getting benefits off it due to they gender identity or whatever issues. Look at the administration and who was potus at the time that made that happen and you'll see many blacks supported him due to his race. And this current administration ain't helping either by chipping away at the CRA based on schools and race. The sooner many of us realize neither side is....... "for us"..... when it comes to these issues, then the better.
Sandy Darity put this Black buying power stat to shame and said it's 100%, an absolute farce. I posted a thread where he covered this topic in both the study and in the video.

You should check this out:

Dr. Sandy Darity of Duke University on the Racial Wealth Gap while providing solutions as well
 

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raceAhead: A New Nielsen Report Puts Black Buying Power at $1.2 Trillion
"Buying power" is a farce created by media companies to make us spend money. That isn't wealth or free/discretionary money.

That includes everything from gas to toilet paper to medicine.

Thats not how much were spending on Jordan's and weave :beli:

"Black people waste money is mass" is a proven fallacy.
 
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This isn't completely true. Used to work in bank ALL immigrants have access to certain govt grants, funding..even kick backs when settling. Other groups do have established networks, and communities here, and abroad to give further assistance, though.
Can you list them?
 

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Like what for example?

Can you list them?
Not too specific, but 1st, and foremost, many are actually eligible for emergency govt subsidies normally allotted citizens: TANF Medicaid, Snap on case by-case basis. Also, state, and status is important, refugees, asylum seekers, and survivors of trafficking are placed in protected status. Some even eligible for SSI for up to (7) years.
Aside from that, others are either sponsored(have mula), and must prove, by affidavit to the govt that pretty much they can carry their own weight. More Affluent groups:NE Asians, Nigerians, Indians, ect. Even w/that there are selective grants like Citizenship and Assimilation Grant Program to ease transition, and HOPE *legal residents, for home ownership.
Business accn'ts openings are also more lax, less restrictive bc *no credit history after all..which btw despite all the red tape, and 'govt crackdown', lost track # of incidents w/ money laundering, tax evasion, & not reporting funds to Homeland security. Middle easterner's are NOT the only ones w/that fuggazi shyt!
 

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Not too specific, but 1st, and foremost, many are actually eligible for emergency govt subsidies normally allotted citizens: TANF Medicaid, Snap on case by-case basis.
these are not programs targetting at African or Caribbean immigrants
s. Also, state, and status is important, refugees, asylum seekers, and survivors of trafficking are placed in protected status. Some even eligible for SSI for up to (7) years.
also not programs targeting at African or Caribbean immigrants. and hardly any Caribbean immigrants (aside from Haitians) have refugee or asylum status
Aside from that, others are either sponsored(have mula),
This isn't a government program
must prove, by affidavit to the govt that pretty much they can carry their own weight.!
Again, not a government program
More Affluent groups:NE Asians, Nigerians, Indians, ect.
only 1 of the three groups you listed are African or Caribbean
Even w/that there are selective grants like Citizenship and Assimilation Grant Program to ease transition,
this is not a direct investment program, this is an agency that educates immigrants that want to become US citizens through classes, allying them with local or faith based organizations to help them learn English and prepare for naturalization.

Much of the funding goes to integrating refugees, which i mentioned is not the majority of African nor Caribbean immigrants.
Source: Citizenship and Assimilation Grant Program
Admissions & Arrivals
SPT-Refugees2017-T1-750x285.png

Refugees and Asylees in the United States
FT_18.01.24_blackImmigrants_birthplace.png

notice that top refugees from black countries are from DR Congo, Eritrea and Somalia. Only Somalia is a top ten birthplace for black immigrants.
Key facts about black immigrants in the U.S.
HOPE *legal residents, for home ownership
need a stat on this as well
Business accn'ts openings are also more lax, less restrictive bc *no credit history after all..which btw despite all the red tape, and 'govt crackdown', lost track # of incidents w/ money laundering, tax evasion, & not reporting funds to Homeland security. Middle easterner's are NOT the only ones w/that fuggazi shyt!
i need evidence that this is true, and specifically true for African and Caribbean immigrans[/QUOTE]
 

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these are not programs targetting at African or Caribbean immigrants

also not programs targeting at African or Caribbean immigrants. and hardly any Caribbean immigrants (aside from Haitians) have refugee or asylum status

This isn't a government program

Again, not a government program
only 1 of the three groups you listed are African or Caribbean

this is not a direct investment program, this is an agency that educates immigrants that want to become US citizens through classes, allying them with local or faith based organizations to help them learn English and prepare for naturalization.

Much of the funding goes to integrating refugees, which i mentioned is not the majority of African nor Caribbean immigrants.
Source: Citizenship and Assimilation Grant Program
Admissions & Arrivals
SPT-Refugees2017-T1-750x285.png

Refugees and Asylees in the United States
FT_18.01.24_blackImmigrants_birthplace.png

notice that top refugees from black countries are from DR Congo, Eritrea and Somalia. Only Somalia is a top ten birthplace for black immigrants.
Key facts about black immigrants in the U.S.

need a stat on this as well

i need evidence that this is true, and specifically true for African and Caribbean immigrans
1. Haitians are the biggest group from Caribbean(next to Cubans) that ARE/were protected under asylum protection.
2.Already made distinction between those typically from more affluent settings ie Nigeria vs poorer ones: DRC, Burundi, Eritrea which are African
3.Never said, or implied ALL African/Caribbean groups were charity cases to be loaded up w/free money, which clearly was ur *trigger, said that along w reg govt subsidies, many immigrants have access to different funding, in the form of grants, lax restrictions, and kickbacks in the form of selective guarantees, much of which working in a govt' regulated financial institution,I legally I can't disclose for obvious reasons. Just know the west, U.S in particular is absolutely the more generous, and accommodating to those entering, despite popular belief. Speaking from experience,...but don't take my word. No skin off my back:hubie:
 
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1. Haitians are the biggest group from Caribbean(next to Cubans) that ARE/were protected under asylum protection.
2.Already made distinction between those typically from more Affluent settings ie Nigeria vs poorer ones: DRC, Burundi, Eritrea which ARE AFRICAN
3.Never said, or implied ALL African/Caribbean groups were charity cases to be loaded up w/free money, which clearly was ur *trigger, said that along w reg govt subsidies, many immigrants have access to different funding, in the form of grants, lax restrictions, and kickbacks in the form of selective guarantees, much of which working in a govt' regulated financial institution,I legally I can't disclose for obvious reasons. Just know the west, U.S in particular is absolutely the more generous, and accommodating to those entering, despite whatever myths say otherwise. Speaking from experience,...but don't take my word. No skin of my back:hubie:
1) As I said only Haitians are Caribbean immigrants that have asylum protection. for whatever matter, they are not the primary black immigrant group.
2) again none of those groups (DRC, Burundi, or Eritrea) are a top 10 black immigrant group
3) "ALL immigrants have access to certain govt grants, funding..even kick backs when settling"
This isn't completely true. Used to work in bank ALL immigrants have access to certain govt grants, funding..even kick backs when settling. Other groups do have established networks, and communities here, and abroad to give further assistance, though.
But You said this which is why i quoted you. this is a common idea on the coli that i've never seen substantiated with evidence. and you are unable to provide evidence that black immigrants are provided this government support
 

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Whether or not they share my ethnicity is not important.

As long they have charisma, ambition, mental discipline and motivation, I'll work with them

However, when folks start misbehaving or start acting like children, that's where it's to find another candidate

Business is best when feelings are out of the equation.
 
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