California Advances Bill for Porn Site Age Verification

[Ineedmoney504]

Ok, I’m going to play devils advocate here a bit.



Before the internet, porn still existed, and you had to show an ID to rent an Adult Film…The government could get access to your purchases with a warrant. It wasn’t on the parents to prevent you from checking out an adult film, it was on the clerk to stop you from being able to rent it. How many articles do we see about how social media is harmful to children, iPad Kids, etc.? Same thing applies to porn on the internet….

If this is done right, like the EU appears to have done, then it is anonymous. Well, not totally anonymous but anyone that thinks you’re anonymous to the government using a VPN or really anything is kidding themselves. Good luck trying to find a software solution to solve a people problem. Snowden already told us every single mobile device has an IMEI, so VPN doesn’t mean shyt to the government. I guarantee something similar exists for laptops and desktops as well. Theres almost nothing out there Big Brother doesn’t know that you haven’t already “told” him. If they wanted to blackmail you for watching porn, you must be pretty important and they’re going to pull out all the stops to get you. And that’s assuming they don’t already have it from the wide mass surveillance net they cast on every single American.

We should’ve pushed for regulation of the buying and selling of data, as well as legislation to reel in the NSA, and countless other things…I guess it’s not too late, but that would require so many drastic changes in everyday Americans (including myself) and I don’t know if we’ll ever get to that point. Long story short, getting upset at this is misguided anger, imo.


Depending on how this is implemented the only thing a hacker would know about someone is that they are in a database for age verification for viewing porn, not what they view, not when they viewed it, or what websites.

They might be able to blackmail you for being in age verification database for watching porn. However, grown men who can be blackmailed based off the fact that they at some point in time watched porn are few and far between…And that doesn’t include potential barrier of entry for a hacker to be able to get access to the info in the first place. Which could be a high barrier to overcome for potential blackmail, fraud, identity theft, etc. to even happen in the first place



I trust no corporation, no company, to EVER have my best interests in mind. They do what is in their best interest and that is make money. If our best interests align, it’s a coincidence, or forced through regulation. These porn websites know that the vast majority of people will hate this, and that’s going to affect their bottom line. If their bottom line could be unaffected and they had to violate your privacy they would do it. Don't confuse their greed for solidarity.

Yea from my understanding it’s not you uploading anything to the porn site lol.

Each state has the digital id system. Like real id or Louisiana license where you upload you license so you can have it digitally on your phone.

The porn sites just lets you use that as. 3rd party and verifies if you over 18

 

[bnew]

Ok, I’m going to play devils advocate here a bit.



Before the internet, porn still existed, and you had to show an ID to rent an Adult Film…The government could get access to your purchases with a warrant. It wasn’t on the parents to prevent you from checking out an adult film, it was on the clerk to stop you from being able to rent it. How many articles do we see about how social media is harmful to children, iPad Kids, etc.? Same thing applies to porn on the internet….

If this is done right, like the EU appears to have done, then it is anonymous. Well, not totally anonymous but anyone that thinks you’re anonymous to the government using a VPN or really anything is kidding themselves. Good luck trying to find a software solution to solve a people problem. Snowden already told us every single mobile device has an IMEI, so VPN doesn’t mean shyt to the government. I guarantee something similar exists for laptops and desktops as well. Theres almost nothing out there Big Brother doesn’t know that you haven’t already “told” him. If they wanted to blackmail you for watching porn, you must be pretty important and they’re going to pull out all the stops to get you. And that’s assuming they don’t already have it from the wide mass surveillance net they cast on every single American.

We should’ve pushed for regulation of the buying and selling of data, as well as legislation to reel in the NSA, and countless other things…I guess it’s not too late, but that would require so many drastic changes in everyday Americans (including myself) and I don’t know if we’ll ever get to that point. Long story short, getting upset at this is misguided anger, imo.


Depending on how this is implemented the only thing a hacker would know about someone is that they are in a database for age verification for viewing porn, not what they view, not when they viewed it, or what websites.

They might be able to blackmail you for being in age verification database for watching porn. However, grown men who can be blackmailed based off the fact that they at some point in time watched porn are few and far between…And that doesn’t include potential barrier of entry for a hacker to be able to get access to the info in the first place. Which could be a high barrier to overcome for potential blackmail, fraud, identity theft, etc. to even happen in the first place



I trust no corporation, no company, to EVER have my best interests in mind. They do what is in their best interest and that is make money. If our best interests align, it’s a coincidence, or forced through regulation. These porn websites know that the vast majority of people will hate this, and that’s going to affect their bottom line. If their bottom line could be unaffected and they had to violate your privacy they would do it. Don't confuse their greed for solidarity.

Yea from my understanding it’s not you uploading anything to the porn site lol.

Each state has the digital id system. Like real id or Louisiana license where you upload you license so you can have it digitally on your phone.

The porn sites just lets you use that as. 3rd party and verifies if you over 18

Identification can be faked...

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[Ineedmoney504]

Identification can be faked...

Feel you. I stick to smaller sites so I don’t have issues

 

[Lord Quas]

Ah. I kinda see what you're saying. Essentially, using your IMEI / nearby cell towers, they can find out what your general location is.

Two things about that, though. The NSA doesn't give a flying shyt what you look up on pornhub as long as it's not dirtbag shyt, and state / federal law enforcement would need a warrant to get your carrier to divulge your IMEI since it's a pretty big invasion of privacy, which they wouldn't even attempt to do so for something as big as using pornhub.

If that's not what you're getting at, then what is it? Are you insinuating that the NSA would force us to verify our identity on these sites by sharing our IMEIs with sites like pornhub?

Private companies can also access your IMEI (obviously Google and Apple are two) when you use apps they can ban you and monitor you that way (Instagram, Facebook, Snapchat). I mentioned Snowden and the NSA to highlight the futility of trying to remain anonymous from the government, and how an IMEI is one part of the many pieces they use to unmask you…and that an IMEI can be used to enforce age verification laws for viewing pornography, making peoples use of VPNs pretty much pointless (on a phone using an app, at least) for geofencing.

I don’t think the NSA gives a fukk what I or anyone else if beating off to if everyone is of legal age, but they’re definitely collecting all that information regardless and a VPN won’t help. And so an age verification database I’m in doesn’t make me anymore exposed to the government than I was yesterday…

 

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[tay1]

I know everybody is a conspiracy theorist and blah blah blah. I'm not mad at this.

 

[bnew]

Pornhub to leave five more states over age-verification laws

Pornhub will block access to its site in five more states in the coming weeks.

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Pornhub to leave five more states over age-verification laws​

The new laws are aimed at protecting minors, but have raised questions about broader online privacy issues.​

Anna Washenko

·Contributing Reporter

Wed, June 19, 2024 at 3:49 PM EDT·2 min read

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Pornhub will cease operating in five more states this summer due to new legislation that requires age verification on adult entertainment websites. The move is in response to a wave of recently-passed laws that require porn websites and other platforms with explicit adults-only content to collect proof of their users' ages. In all of these states, that means people would need to upload a copy of their driver's license or other government ID, or register with a third-party age verification service, in order to use sites like Pornhub.

A blog post from Pornhub said that its latest locations for shutdowns are Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky and Nebraska. The site said it would end operations in those states in July 2024. The website closed in Texas last week, and has also blocked access to its site in Arkansas, Mississippi, Montana, North Carolina, Utah, and Virginia in response to similar state legislation.

Lawmakers from these states who supported age-verification laws said the rules would keep children from viewing explicit content. For example, the Kentucky bill framed pornography as a “public health crisis” with a “corroding influence” on children.

Pornhub parent company Aylo has countered that the approach taken by these laws puts users' privacy at risk and may not actually prevent minors from seeing explicit content. After Louisiana enacted a similar law last year and Aylo remained in operation with a government-supported age verification service, Pornhub traffic in the state dropped 80 percent.

"These people did not stop looking for porn," Aylo told the Indiana Capital Chronicle. "They just migrated to darker corners of the internet that don’t ask users to verify age, that don’t follow the law, that don’t take user safety seriously, and that often don’t even moderate content." The company advocates a device-based age verification solution rather than state legislation to keep minors off of adults-only sites.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation also raised privacy concerns around these bills, noting that no age-verification method is completely foolproof. "No one should have to hand over their driver’s license just to access free websites. That’s why EFF opposes mandated age verification laws, no matter how well intentioned they may be," the organization said in a 2023 statement.