Cade Cunningham is and will remain better than Jalen Green

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Everybody in the nba is playing off talent. And when Jalen green is doing all that and getting better. What u think Cade gonna be doing. Twiddling his thumbs or some chit. His offensive bag which is already bigger than greens will only get bigger and better also. Playmaking and running a team ain’t even in the discussion between the two.

Jalen has a higher ceiling as a scorer, he's raw

Cade is more polished and he has to rely on skill, otherwise he'd be avg throughout his career

I like them both but Jalen is the more intriguing prospect
 

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Everybody in the nba is playing off talent. And when Jalen green is doing all that and getting better. What u think Cade gonna be doing. Twiddling his thumbs or some chit. His offensive bag which is already bigger than greens will only get bigger and better also. Playmaking and running a team ain’t even in the discussion between the two.

The space between the two has grown this year. Roles and importance to franchise for the two are strikingly different. Cade is priority #1 for the Pistons. Jalen isn't that for the Rockets.
 

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Jalen has a higher ceiling as a scorer, he's raw

Cade is more polished and he has to rely on skill, otherwise he'd be avg throughout his career


I like them both but Jalen is the more intriguing prospect
Tell me who doesn’t rely on skill in the nba? Is somebody being a all star i don’t know about because they know magic or some chit? Is kd able to drop 30 just because he tall or is it be use he relies on his talent. :ohhh:


That non athletic chit yall was saying before the season is nul and void breh. U clearly ain’t watching if you still saying that.
 

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Tell me who doesn’t rely on skill in the nba? Is somebody being a all star i don’t know about because they know magic or some chit? Is kd able to drop 30 just because he tall or is it be use he relies on his talent. :ohhh:

You obv don't hoop...it's strategy and intent behind actions on the court

KD is a savant, but he's not overly athletic

Cade has a better understanding of what he's looking to do on the court right now, he;'s more strategic and more intentional

Jalen just plays off of instinct, he really has no idea what he's doing yet

He'll get to a point where everything he does on the court is intentional...not sure if I'm articulating this correctly but it's like being out there to have fun vs being out there and strategic in order to win

:yeshrug:

And yes, it will take Jalen about 3 more yrs to start really figuring it out
 

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You obv don't hoop...it's strategy and intent behind actions on the court

KD is a savant, but he's not overly athletic

Cade has a better understanding of what he's looking to do on the court right now, he;'s more strategic and more intentional

Jalen just plays off of instinct, he really has no idea what he's doing yet

He'll get to a point where everything he does on the court is intentional...not sure if I'm articulating this correctly but it's like being out there to have fun vs being out there and strategic in order to win

:yeshrug:

And yes, it will take Jalen about 3 more yrs to start really figuring it out
Yes I’ve never played basketball in my life. :stopitslime:
Would like me to list the other top players and see how many of them are over athletic or they Just skilled basketball players.

So when green is out there just having fun is he using his skills to do it or no:troll:

Stop making chit up or listening to some goofy talkin head. Everybody out there is hopping. Some just hoop better than others.
 

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The space between the two has grown this year. Roles and importance to franchise for the two are strikingly different. Cade is priority #1 for the Pistons. Jalen isn't that for the Rockets.
Wrong. But I understand why you say that becaue that’s what it looks like on the court. You’re right. Cade is given the reins and keys to the offense in the floor. They run it through him. This is the reason Bosuton shut down Wall. Even with a wall not playing Greens gets overshadowed on the floor by the other rockets . He’s not the focal point of the offense. They don’t seek him out for shot. He’s get his shots at the mercy do the flow of the offense. They been sticking him in the corner all season long like he’s tucking PJ Tucker. They jsut started getting him the ball In transitions and it’s been spectacular. Green in open space is jsut beautiful basketball and not many can do what he can do when he gets goin downhill.

From beginning to the end of the season , Green probably has had the biggest trajectory along with Giddey. Green really had to developed a lot with not a lot of opportunities som much of his work has been in the lab. He was shooting that midrange but now we’re seeing him shoot it a lot more often. He also has a floater/push shot he’s working on in the lab that’s progressing . Not sure if he’ll show it this season buts it’s something to look too.

his defense has improved tremendously. He used to get pushed around and was out worst perimter defender but now hes our best. He’s fighting over screens and fighting off the switch offs with bigs. He’s not conceding baskets. I love the steady improvement I’m seeing from Green and still love the pick.


I watched the game on Sunday night and Cade was getting the ball almost every possesion in clutch and has been for a while. That game against Utah Houston had where Green went off and helped them comeback to get into it, Green didn’t get the ball entire OT until the minute of the OT until the game was over
 
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Wrong. But I understand why you say that becaue that’s what it looks like in the court. You’re right. Cade is given the reins and keys to the offense in the floor. They run it through him. This is the reason Bosuton shut down Wall. Even with a wall not playing Greens gets overshadowed on the floor by the other rockets . He’s not the focal point of the offense. They don’t seek him out for shot. He’s get his shots at the mercy do the flow of the offense. They been sticking him in the corner all season long like he’s tucking PJ Tucker. They jsut started getting him the ball In transitions and it’s been spectacular. Green in open space is jsut beautiful basketball and not many can do what he can do when he gets goin downhill.

Cade better
 
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I like them both, I still think Jalen has the higher ceiling

Cade is better now tho...but those bigger Guards who don't rely on athleticism are simply steady in their careers...they don't make big jumps in improvement

I think Cade should be 21-6-6 in his sleep

I think Jalen can be 28-6-4 if he figures it out...gets stronger, learns when to attack, when to facilitate, equally comfortable playing on & off the ball

Jalen is playing off talent, he doesn't know what he's doing yet...but that's to be expected

Cade will be putting those numbers up next year.

Jalen Green will never average 28-6-4 :yeshrug:
 

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Yes I’ve never played basketball in my life. :stopitslime:
Would like me to list the other top players and see how many of them are over athletic or they Just skilled basketball players.

So when green is out there just having fun is he using his skills to do it or no:troll:

Stop making chit up or listening to some goofy talkin head. Everybody out there is hopping. Some just hoop better than others.

Some ppl just play, some ppl are intentional about what they do on the court

beginner vs advanced
 

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You obv don't hoop...it's strategy and intent behind actions on the court

KD is a savant, but he's not overly athletic

Cade has a better understanding of what he's looking to do on the court right now, he;'s more strategic and more intentional

Jalen just plays off of instinct, he really has no idea what he's doing yet

He'll get to a point where everything he does on the court is intentional...not sure if I'm articulating this correctly but it's like being out there to have fun vs being out there and strategic in order to win

:yeshrug:

And yes, it will take Jalen about 3 more yrs to start really figuring it out
Or he won't. There are so many more Uber athletes whose games don't ever develop the way people wishfully projected than there are guys that took that athleticism and added elite skills to superstardom. I'm not saying this will be the case with Green, but the notion that extremely skilled players can't improve on their skillet and improve their bodies as well, therefore improving athletic traits, is a fallacy that I'm surprised so many knowledgeable posters continue to cling to. Cade will never be the athlete that Green is, but Green will never have the bball iq that Cade has shown to display, as you don't see that kind of drastic development either. The point is, I think they both have high ceilings, they're just not the same type of structures since they're building on completely different foundations.
 

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intelligence is fixed

a player can get in better shape & work on their physical tools much more than they can rewire the way their brain works

the current mvp is an example of how a player with what is comparitavely zero athleticism can dominate opponents who can outrun out jump & just out athlete him in every way

cade plays in that mold

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intelligence is fixed

a player can get in better shape & work on their physical tools much more than they can rewire the way their brain works

the current mvp is an example of how a player with what is comparitavely zero athleticism can dominate opponents who can outrun out jump & just out athlete him in every way

cade plays in that mold

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he could also be in the mold of Tyreke Evans..we need to wait & see
 
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