Cacs Who Complain About Islam

[Saiyajin]

That's PRECISELY why they complain about Islam.

White people fear Arabs and Muslims the most over history as a group/religion/society, this goes back to Europe. It's partially because Arabs/Muslims are the only group that Euros came in contact whose culture, language, religion...they were not able to crush. One on one they fear black people more, but as a group/society it's Arabs/Muslims. Also because it's the only other group that is still culturally and religiously expansionnist in a way today (as opposed to China for example, that doesn't care about cultural/religious expansion).

In other words, they complain about Islam because they understand that it's a powerful religion/culture/political entity that they cannot control and that does not fit in the western liberal capitalist/liberal framework.

especially because the creation of the "Welfare State" was the first Muslim Caliphate that was based entirely on the Prophet's teachings and Quran (he had just died). This welfare state lasted centuries so it disproves the myth that conservatives repeat over and over, that a "welfare state" is unsustainable. Clearly it was and is sustainable to devote tax to alleviating poverty and making income and wealth equal for all citizens

In his time, equality was extended to all citizens, even to the caliph himself, as Umar believed that "no one, no matter how important, should live in a way that would distinguish him from the rest of the people."

Limitations on wealth were also set for governors and officials, who would often be "dismissed if they showed any outward signs of pride or wealth which might distinguish them from the people." This was an early attempt at erasing "class distinctions which might inevitably lead to conflict." Umar also made sure that the public treasury was not wasted on "unnecessary luxuries" as he believed that "the money would be better spent if it went towards the welfare of the people rather than towards lifeless bricks."

Umar's innovative welfare reforms during the Rashidun Caliphate included the introduction of social security. This included unemployment insurance, which did not appear in the Western world until the 19th century. In the Rashidun Caliphate, whenever citizens were injured or lost their ability to work, it became the state's responsibility to make sure that their minimum needs were met, with the unemployed and their families receiving an allowance from the public treasury.[2] Retirement pensions were provided to elderly people,[1] who had retired and could "count on receiving a stipend from the public treasury." Babies who were abandoned were also taken care of, with one hundred dirhams spent annually on each orphan’s development. Umar also introduced the concept of public trusteeship and public ownership when he implemented the Waqf, or charitable trust, system, which transferred "wealth from the individual or the few to a social collective ownership," in order to provide "services to the community at large."

During the great famine of 18 AH (638 CE), Umar introduced further reforms, such as the introduction of food rationing using coupons, which were given to those in need and could be exchanged for wheat and flour. Another innovative concept that was introduced was that of a poverty threshold, with efforts made to ensure a minimum standard of living, making sure that no citizen across the empire would suffer from hunger. In order to determine the poverty line, Umar ordered an experiment to test how many seers of flour would be required to feed a person for a month. He found that 25 seers of flour could feed 30 people, and so he concluded that 50 seers of flour would be sufficient to feed a person for a month. As a result, he ordered that the poor each receive a food ration of fifty seers of flour per month.

this was 1400 years ago

 

[mbewane]

You 100%. Islam is expansionist like Cacs have been. Cacs have been spreading Western Ideology like Capitalism and Euro-eccentric propaganda through war and invasion, money and politics, religion and charity.

This Cac writes:

It should say: " What the Press don understand is the Politics of "white supremacy" Will not allow assimilation of white people anywhere period.

Yep, even the whole idea of "universal values" or whatever is Westerncentricity at its finest. The only ones challenging this in a sense (at a much smaller scale though) are Arabs/Muslims.

Plus geographical proximity and history has led Europe and the Arab/Muslim world to have a long-standing "love-hate" relationship for centuries, but that tilted towards the "hate" part when Europe developped and got the upper hand. Europeans collective long-term memory hasn't forgotten that the Arab/Muslim world was much more developped than Europe was for centuries. And I firmly believe a lot of Euros secretly envy the fact that Arabs/Muslims are still attached to their respective cultures/traditions (which is why right populist parties keep on talking about "values").

All of that carried over to the US imo.

 

[mbewane]

especially because the creation of the "Welfare State" was the first Muslim Caliphate that was based entirely on the Prophet's teachings and Quran (he had just died). This welfare state lasted centuries so it disproves the myth that conservatives repeat over and over, that a "welfare state" is unsustainable. Clearly it was and is sustainable to devote tax to alleviating poverty and making income and wealth equal for all citizens





this was 1400 years ago

Yeah I don't much about that but I'll take your word for it. It's well-documented and accepted by Euro unbiased historians that Arabs/Muslims had highly efficient state organizations.

 

[HopeKillCure]

Yep, even the whole idea of "universal values" or whatever is Westerncentricity at its finest. The only ones challenging this in a sense (at a much smaller scale though) are Arabs/Muslims.

Plus geographical proximity and history has led Europe and the Arab/Muslim world to have a long-standing "love-hate" relationship for centuries, but that tilted towards the "hate" part when Europe developped and got the upper hand. Europeans collective long-term memory hasn't forgotten that the Arab/Muslim world was much more developped than Europe was for centuries. And I firmly believe a lot of Euros secretly envy the fact that Arabs/Muslims are still attached to their respective cultures/traditions (which is why right populist parties keep on talking about "values").

All of that carried over to the US imo.

That's why Cacs hate them so much huh--eventhough they are white and have money.

There is some jealousy there by Europeans, Muslims are stopping their global white supremacist/euro-eccentric bullshyte from taking hold by keep Islam and their structure. It's a direct competitor the White christian/Judaic fukkery.

Good fukk em! Hope Islam continues to do to the West, what Cacs been doing to the rest of the world.



"Peace in White Supremacy = Submission..."

 

[Saiyajin]

Yep, even the whole idea of "universal values" or whatever is Westerncentricity at its finest. The only ones challenging this in a sense (at a much smaller scale though) are Arabs/Muslims.

Plus geographical proximity and history has led Europe and the Arab/Muslim world to have a long-standing "love-hate" relationship for centuries, but that tilted towards the "hate" part when Europe developped and got the upper hand. Europeans collective long-term memory hasn't forgotten that the Arab/Muslim world was much more developped than Europe was for centuries. And I firmly believe a lot of Euros secretly envy the fact that Arabs/Muslims are still attached to their respective cultures/traditions (which is why right populist parties keep on talking about "values").

All of that carried over to the US imo.

breh have you seen my thread on the Moors

a historian at Berkley concluded that Islamophobia when the Moors were the dominant superpower and ruled eventually morphed into modern day Racism after the Spanish Inquisition expelled the Moors. After generations the Moors dominance was forgotten which allowed the European cacs to begin to spread their white supremacist ideology. They couldn't do it for 1500 years because they were always in the Shadow of a stronger and more dominant empire, the Arabs, Persians, Moors, Mongols or Ottomans.All these empires were Muslim which lead to a lot of resentment and 9 failed Crusades (the Mongols ended up converting despite basically wiping out and conquering the Arabs all across the Middle East, but they never took North africa )

This period we are living in is really unique because its the first time period that allowed White Supremacy to really take hold and flourish, it was impossible before because Anglo Saxon/European cacs saw firsthand wealthy and luxury empires that put them to shame.

Thats why I dont really get as heated when Cacs talk their shyt. The Moors ruled for 700 years straight dominating the European continent right on there doorstep (Spain) with no opposition. They are barely pushing 300 years not even half the Moors reign (not to mention the Moors went to the Interior of Africa and started empires that are considered the wealthiest and most powerful in history, lasting until the 1900s)

Whats funny is They used Moorish, Arab and Persian knowledge to kick start their renaissance and enlightenment they revere this time period the most, and only Historians know it was built upon the knowledge of the Moors

They can talk their shyt but Truth seperates itself from Fiction. Facts are facts, anyone can look up Al-Andalus, hard to be a white supremacist when the Moors lasted longer than all cac empires litearlly.

The Roman empire only lasted 507 years and thats the longest reigning white empire I believe

 

[Saiyajin]

Yeah I don't much about that but I'll take your word for it. It's well-documented and accepted by Euro unbiased historians that Arabs/Muslims had highly efficient state organizations.

Here's the historical article about it (scroll down to political and civil administration)

Story of Umar Ibn Khattab

 

[mbewane]

That's why Cacs hate them so much huh--eventhough they are white and have money.

There is some jealousy there by Europeans, Muslims are stopping their global white supremacist/euro-eccentric bullshyte from taking hold by keep Islam and their structure. It's a direct competitor the White christian/Judaic fukkery.

Good fukk em! Hope Islam continues to do to the West, what Cacs been doing to the rest of the world.



"Peace in White Supremacy = Submission..."

Yeah I won't enter into Coligenetics about who is white or who isn't, nor do I support any kind of expansionism, but there's most def a jealousy of sorts there.

Also what i've always felt is that Westerners basically traded Christianity as their main focus to liberalism and capitalism, which really are "secular religions" made of another set of beliefs, but which are still beliefs. So that century old opposition of different sets of beliefs still goes on, regardless of what Westerners say.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Its not just white people. Islam poses a threat to anybody that isn't Muslim. That doesn't mean all Muslims are bad people, but it means some precautions have to be taken.

Islam is a religion that pretty much requires you to become an Arab or wannabe Arab, it pervades your entire identity unlike other religions. Some cultures can withstand it to a certain extent, some can't and end up being destroyed. Non muslim countries, no matter what their ethnic makeup is, should all have the right to resist that type of cultural imperialism. That isn't racism, it's self preservation.

 

[NotaPAWG]

The same white people who spread propaganda of sharia law and claim Islam is violent because of radicals and it's wrong to kill or hurt over something like stealing, will back the police killing and shooting an unarmed black man and make an excuse everytime. They tried saying Mike Brown deserved be killed because he may have robbed a store.

Also, they fear Islam because the powers Arab countries have over us in terms of resources (oil) and they know the power a radical idea and following can have and countries like Saudi Arabia spending billions to spread it

 

[Turk]

Allah's deen been hated since it was introduced to the world. Nothing new

 

[mbewane]

breh have you seen my thread on the Moors

a historian at Berkley concluded that Islamophobia when the Moors were the dominant superpower and ruled eventually morphed into modern day Racism after the Spanish Inquisition expelled the Moors. After generations the Moors dominance was forgotten which allowed the European cacs to begin to spread their white supremacist ideology. They couldn't do it for 1500 years because they were always in the Shadow of a stronger and more dominant empire, the Arabs, Persians, Moors, Mongols or Ottomans.All these empires were Muslim which lead to a lot of resentment and 9 failed Crusades (the Mongols ended up converting despite basically wiping out and conquering the Arabs all across the Middle East, but they never took North africa )

This period we are living in is really unique because its the first time period that allowed White Supremacy to really take hold and flourish, it was impossible before because Anglo Saxon/European cacs saw firsthand wealthy and luxury empires that put them to shame.

Thats why I dont really get as heated when Cacs talk their shyt. The Moors ruled for 700 years straight dominating the European continent right on there doorstep (Spain) with no opposition. They are barely pushing 300 years not even half the Moors reign (not to mention the Moors went to the Interior of Africa and started empires that are considered the wealthiest and most powerful in history, lasting until the 1900s)

Whats funny is They used Moorish, Arab and Persian knowledge to kick start their renaissance and enlightenment they revere this time period the most, and only Historians know it was built upon the knowledge of the Moors

They can talk their shyt but Truth seperates itself from Fiction. Facts are facts, anyone can look up Al-Andalus, hard to be a white supremacist when the Moors lasted longer than all cac empires litearlly.

The Roman empire only lasted 507 years and thats the longest reigning white empire I believe

Yes this is what is truly interesting, is that this era we are in looks like Westerners have been on top of the world forever but on the larger scale indeed it's been like yeah, 300 or 400 years really. So on one hand what they've been able to do in this time is huge, on the other it's really not that long. Ironically, I think there's a real fear from Westerners imo because they know that demographically they are outmatched, they know that Europe is small as hell and that in their run to "modernity" and "progress" they destroyed a lot of their own cultural heritage and social cohesion. And they know that their wealth is based on exploitation of other countries and of natural ressources that are running out.

And I think that they know that cultures like the Arab/Muslim one or the Chinese will still be around for a long time, even while we see the western model of liberal capitalism go from crisis to crisis.

 

[HopeKillCure]

Yeah I won't enter into Coligenetics about who is white or who isn't, nor do I support any kind of expansionism, but there's most def a jealousy of sorts there.

Also what i've always felt is that Westerners basically traded Christianity as their main focus to liberalism and capitalism, which really are "secular religions" made of another set of beliefs, but which are still beliefs. So that century old opposition of different sets of beliefs still goes on, regardless of what Westerners say.

I've always felt like this new movement away from Christianity and "church values" has something to do with it's losing influence to Islam globally. Sort of cutting your nose off to spite your face, try to modernize the idea there is no magic man in the sky who created everything , no jesus no allah, the new religion is capitalism/western values. I'd say liberalism was another movement but Cacs absolutely suck at truly being liberal--outside of having sex with the same gender. Their Sexual liberalism movement failed in Greece and Rome and it will fail again in America imo.

 

[Saiyajin]

Its not just white people. Islam poses a threat to anybody that isn't Muslim. That doesn't mean all Muslims are bad people, but it means some precautions have to be taken.

Islam is a religion that pretty much requires you to become an Arab or wannabe Arab, it pervades your entire identity unlike other religions. Some cultures can withstand it to a certain extent, some can't and end up being destroyed. Non muslim countries, no matter what their ethnic makeup is, should all have the right to resist that type of cultural imperialism. That isn't racism, it's self preservation.

Can you show me a definitive example of Muslims immigrating to a non muslim country and taking over while remaining a minority, via "cultural imperialism" ?

 

[Saiyajin]

Yes this is what is truly interesting, is that this era we are in looks like Westerners have been on top of the world forever but on the larger scale indeed it's been like yeah, 300 or 400 years really. So on one hand what they've been able to do in this time is huge, on the other it's really not that long. Ironically, I think there's a real fear from Westerners imo because they know that demographically they are outmatched, they know that Europe is small as hell and that in their run to "modernity" and "progress" they destroyed a lot of their own cultural heritage and social cohesion. And they know that their wealth is based on exploitation of other countries and of natural ressources that are running out.

And I think that they know that cultures like the Arab/Muslim one or the Chinese will still be around for a long time, even while we see the western model of liberal capitalism go from crisis to crisis.

I think The Arab culture is gonna collapse because they sold out all their morals and values for oil money and greed

When Oil runs out it will be disastorous

But Arabs only make like 25% of all Muslims or something like that.

The other 75% will continue living in relative peace, just like they are now

 

[mbewane]

I've always felt like this new movement away from Christianity and "church values" has something to do with it's losing influence to Islam globally. Sort of cutting your nose off to spite your face, try to modernize the idea there is no magic man in the sky who created everything , no jesus no allah, the new religion is capitalism/western values. I'd say liberalism was another movement but Cacs absolutely suck at truly being liberal--outside of having sex with the same gender. Their Sexual liberalism movement failed in Greece and Rome and it will fail again in America imo.

I read an article some time ago that basically explained that capitalism/western values is basically that, a new-born religion...think of some of the stuff..."the invisible hand"..."trickle-down economics"..."the market will auto-regulate"...I mean the connections between Luther and capitalism are already well documented...western liberalism I think comes from a good place at the beginning, but imo more and more it's used as a way of saying "we're better than them, look at how much we're liberal" as opposed to a TRUE belief in liberalism. Hence the whole reactionnary movement we see nowadays : some people were surprised, but it's really true colors showing.