CAC reveals "true face of Nefertiti" on The Today Show

[Chipdeez]

Genetic test have proven that Nefertiti was not King Tut's mother.

No... they proved she was... or at least his mother's sister. Tut was indeed inbred and he married his sister who had still births. The 18th dynasty was forged in war. They were nutty block.

Either Tiye was Nefertiti's mother or her mother's sister.

 

[Chipdeez]

^^What she said. Until we get ANCIENT DNA from PRE-ROMAN/GREEK era mummies from the SOUTH... STOP entertaining this shyt!!!!!

We had have ancient DNA from pre-Roman mummies. We have DNA from the Nefertiti herself. The Dnatribes test is real, and verifiable with other data bases.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

We had have ancient DNA from pre-Roman mummies. We have DNA from the Nefertiti herself. The Dnatribes test is real, and verifiable with other data bases.

DNAtribes is a PRIVATE company who used STR results from the unpublished Hawass study back in 2010. I even know the person who sent them one of the STR results. Anyone can do what DNAtribes did. Anyways while DNAtribes results are good they are NOT good enough and they were never published. Not only that they do not have ANCIENT DNA themselves which is why the AE clustered so close to Southern, Central And West Africans because they were the "most African" component they had. Point is DNAtribes is good but not good enough to tell the whole story. It sure ain't Ancient DNA.

Now King Ramses III African paternal results was the closest we've got.

 

[invalid]

No... they proved she was... or at least his mother's sister. Tut was indeed inbred and he married his sister who had still births. The 18th dynasty was forged in war. They were nutty block.

Lol, no breh, they didn't. The DNA test proved King Tut to be the son of Akhenaten and "The Younger Lady" who was buried in KV35. It was thought that the Younger Lady was Nefertiti or Kiya. But it turns out that the Younger Lady is actually Akhenaten's sister (they don't know which one - but possibly Princess Sitamun). Nefertiti was Akhenaten's first cousin, the daughter of Aye and niece of Queen Tiye.

King Tut’s Family Secrets

Let me repeat - The Younger Lady is not Nefertiti, however, it is King Tut's mother and daughter of Queen Tiye.

We have DNA from the Nefertiti herself.

And they have not identified or found the mummy of Queen Nefertiti yet. So we don't have her DNA.

 

[gldnone913]

haven't read the whole thread, but imma ask a stupid question:

How do they know the complexion/skin color of Nefertiti? From a scientific perspective, what evidence did they find that said 'oh she has the same complexion as a Middle Eastern woman'?

 

[Gold]

^^What she said. Until we get ANCIENT DNA from PRE-ROMAN/GREEK era mummies from the SOUTH... STOP entertaining this shyt!!!!!

Telling black people to stop caring when white people are actively white-washing history is a dangerous position to take.
I would argue that the retelling of history is probably the 2nd most important objective of White-Supremecy.

This is very important imo.

 

[Chipdeez]

They past the exact same genes so if Tiye wasnt her mother Tiye was her mother

DNAtribes is a PRIVATE company who used STR results from the unpublished Hawass study back in 2010. I even know the person who sent them one of the STR results. Anyone can do what DNAtribes did. Anyways while DNAtribes results are good they are NOT good enough and they were never published. Not only that they do not have ANCIENT DNA themselves which is why the AE clustered so close to Southern, Central And West Africans because they were the "most African" component they had. Point is DNAtribes is good but not good enough to tell the whole story. It sure ain't Ancient DNA.

Now King Ramses III African paternal results was the closest we've got.

The Hawass study was published but they only looked at family relations instead of ancestry. DNAtribes ran ancestry on that study and Ramses iii/son which they published. Its a red herring to say they didn't have ancient DNA. They had the Armana family's DNA and they had a huge modern database to compare it to. Some Egyptsearchers ran the raw data with other databases and isolated relationships well enough to explain why they cluster with greater Africans. They have exclusive African markers, majority Pan-African markers and near exclusive European/North African markers. The exclusive African markers are San and Batwa which objectively tell us that 18th and 20th dynasty royals were Khoisan and Pygmy first ie the hobos of modern Africa with mixes of Pan-Africans and ancient North Africans genes. The North Africans must have migrated to Europe and elsewhere but didn't populate North Africa in great enough number to where modern North Africans would be represented. As we all know, North Africa was gentrified many times over.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Telling black people to stop caring when white people are actively white-washing history is a dangerous position to take.
I would argue that the retelling of history is probably the 2nd most important objective of White-Supremecy.

This is very important imo.

If you consider some lame reconstruction worth your time then go ahead. Im waiting for the more juicy shyt.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

They past the exact same genes so if Tiye wasnt her mother Tiye was her mother


The Hawass study was published but they only looked at family relations instead of ancestry. DNAtribes ran ancestry on that study and Ramses iii/son which they published. Its a red herring to say they didn't have ancient DNA. They had the Armana family's DNA and they had a huge modern database to compare it to. Some Egyptsearchers ran the raw data with other databases and isolated relationships well enough to explain why they cluster with greater Africans. They have exclusive African markers, majority Pan-African markers and near exclusive European/North African markers. The exclusive African markers are San and Batwa which objectively tell us that 18th and 20th dynasty royals were Khoisan and Pygmy first ie the hobos of modern Africa with mixes of Pan-Africans and ancient North Africans genes. The North Africans must have migrated to Europe and elsewhere but didn't populate North Africa in great enough number to where modern North Africans would be represented. As we all know, North Africa was gentrified many times over.

Like I said they didnt have Ancient DNA in their(DNAtribes) components which is why they couldnt tell which ancient African population the 18th dynasty grouped with. We just got a general overview that the 18th dynasty were African.

Saying the 18th dynasty were LITERALLY Khoisan before Northeast African groups like Nilotics/Horners/Ancient North Africans is silly. When NO Khoisan related lineages has not even been found in Neolithic Egypt or Sudan and not even today.

Like I said they were missing KEY ancient components to tell the full story. Take i as you want because I dont feel like going back and forth with this shyt.

 

[Gold]

If you consider some lame reconstruction worth your time then go ahead. Im waiting for the more juicy shyt.

Its not my time that anyone should be concerned with, its theirs.
They put the money, time and effort into this research because its absolute worth it to WS to rewrite history.

As I posted above, this is a marathon to them, not a sprint.

They are hoping with enough Science-looking things in the background and enough letters after their names, they can slowly but surely go unchallenged as they make history into something it is.

I'm not saying this is the most important thing ever, I just don't want us to become apathetic towards it.

 

[Yaboysix]

Aye I'm curious.. What happens occupy stick cacs in the desert now a days dressed in our ancestors attire, would they be Gucci? Like survive? Lol

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Its not my time that anyone should be concerned with, its theirs.
They put the money, time and effort into this research because its absolute worth it to WS to rewrite history.

As I posted above, this is a marathon to them, not a sprint.

They are hoping with enough Science-looking things in the background and enough letters after their names, they can slowly but surely go unchallenged as they make history into something it is.

I'm not saying this is the most important thing ever, I just don't want us to become apathetic towards it.

Bro they been white washing Ancient Egyptian history since the flipping late 19th century. Nothing new. But what if I told you that the Egyptian government has been SITTING on MOUNTAINS of unpublished DNA tests of these mummies. And I mean MOUNTAINS that probably go back to the late 90s or early 2000s. Just sitting there. Never released. That should tell you something. They already know. Its just a matter of time before these things get released. This is why I'm not even bothering but just waiting.

I no longer entertain these Egyptian race debates. Me I'm just waiting for the data. They already lost the crania/physical anthropology debate a long time ago. We should already KNOW how the AE looked like based on that!

 

[Chipdeez]

Telling black people to stop caring when white people are actively white-washing history is a dangerous position to take.
I would argue that the retelling of history is probably the 2nd most important objective of White-Supremecy.

This is very important imo.

Agreed
This is why Egypt must be white washed.

It shades the white supremacist pickup line. I'm really suspicious about this being released on black history month. I'll take it further than that, there is a basic aspect of Egyptian culture and other ancient cultures that would be hella meta for black power. Running a temple system with the black church is top 3 in the black power meta and we are acting like the most exposed people to model it are insignificant. Ancient Egypt is a billion dollar industry with books, games, tours, apps, movies etc. If anything we should be on it much harder. Spike TV quoted the lie about Tut's haplogroup before their white washed depiction.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

This reconstruction looks like the old one^^^ They just made her paler and more uglier. If you try and white wash Beyonce and leave her features of course Beyonce would look unhuman and ugly. Like most these reconstructions.

 

[Gold]

Bro they been white washing Ancient Egyptian history since the flipping late 19th century. Nothing new. But what if I told you that the Egyptian government has been SITTING on MOUNTAINS of unpublished DNA tests of these mummies. And I mean MOUNTAINS that probably go back to the late 90s or early 2000s. Just sitting there. Never released. That should tell you something. They already know. Its just a matter of time before these things get released. This is why I'm not even bothering but just waiting.

I no longer entertain these Egyptian race debates. Me I'm just waiting for the data. They already lost the crania/physical anthropology debate a long time ago. We should already KNOW how the AE looked like based on that!

Now I see your point