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:heh: good shyt I'm about to peep these links, but you shouldn't eer underestimate the average "AMERICAN" especially those who are overweight....

My gawd I've seen how some people eat ( :wow: )

The problem doesn't lie in the typical breh, who uses a reasonable amount of salt when prepping his food but rather people who constantly hit up fast food joints throughout the day and those who consume frozen foods which are also notoriously packed with excessive amounts of sodium.
 

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Not really. It's been overly demonized. Salt is fine for you in moderation unless you're a fukking fiend about it or you consume sodium packed fast food constantly.
http://www.mnn.com/health/fitness-w...fit-in-reducing-salt-below-recommended-intake
if its good enough for the CDC, its good enough for me :yeshrug:

You can caveat your statement with "moderation" to try to make the point, but the article I linked says 9 out of 10 American consume salt beyond the point of moderation. It's demonized because people add it to everything.

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Sugar is sugar, brah. The way you consume sugar in the form of fruit with fiber helps, but macros are macros.

Ummmmm....... nah.

http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/GettingHealthy/NutritionCenter/Sugars-101_UCM_306024_Article.jsp

The idea that naturally occurring sugars from a fruit is the same as some chemically enhanced dessert like an Oreo is

:comeon:

The way those added sugars affect your brain is also different than how fruit affects your brain. I eat one banana and I have some satisfaction. I have almost zero desire to consume another banana. I can eat 10 Oreo's and still want more. No mental or physical satisfaction.
 

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I keep telling yall to stop :krs: with everything that comes out...they can't make their minds up
:stop:

Nah. People knew about this for a minute now. Nutritional science is all over the fukking place though, so...

Eat real food, basically.
This

One thing remains constant is that people need to eat more wholes foods; vegetables in particular , drink Water and stay active...

Nobody disagrees on that....
 

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You can caveat your statement with "moderation" to try to make the point, but the article I linked says 9 out of 10 American consume salt beyond the point of moderation. It's demonized because people add it to everything.

Above what I assume are CDC recommended guidelines, which theyve admitted are :duck:. You should check the links I sent to @Serious earlier in the thread.


The idea that naturally occurring sugars from a fruit is the same as some chemically enhanced dessert like an Oreo is

:comeon:

The way those added sugars affect your brain is also different than how fruit affects your brain. I eat one banana and I have some satisfaction. I have almost zero desire to consume another banana. I can eat 10 Oreo's and still want more. No mental or physical satisfaction.
I agreed with you that the environment was different in which those sugars are consumed. I didnt say shyt about satiety either, which I also attribute to fiber. I didnt say dont eat fruit either. I said keep it minimal.
 

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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/26/opinion/bittman-butter-is-back.html?_r=0

Butter Is Back
MARCH 25, 2014

  • Continue reading the main story
    Julia Child, goddess of fat, is beaming somewhere. Butter is back, and when you’re looking for a few chunks of pork for a stew, you can resume searching for the best pieces — the ones with the most fat. Eventually, your friends will stop glaring at you as if you’re trying to kill them.

    That the worm is turning became increasingly evident a couple of weeks ago, when a meta-analysis published in the journal Annals of Internal Medicine found that there’s just no evidence to support the notion that saturated fat increases the risk of heart disease. (In fact, there’s some evidence that a lack of saturated fat may be damaging.) The researchers looked at 72 different studies and, as usual, said more work — including more clinical studies — is needed. For sure. But the days of skinless chicken breasts and tubs of I Can’t Believe It’s Not Butter may finally be drawing to a close.

    The tip of this iceberg has been visible for years, and we’re finally beginning to see the base. Of course, no study is perfect and few are definitive. But thereal villains in our diet — sugar and ultra-processed foods — are becoming increasingly apparent. You can go back to eating butter, if you haven’t already.

    This doesn’t mean you abandon fruit for beef and cheese; you just abandon fake food for real food, and in that category of real food you can include good meat and dairy. I would argue, however, that you might not include most industrially produced animal products; stand by.

    Since the 1970s almost everyone in this country has been subjected to a barrage of propaganda about saturated fat. It was bad for you; it would kill you. Never mind that much of the nonsaturated fat was in the form of trans fats, now demonstrated to be harmful. Never mind that many polyunsaturated fats are chemically extracted oils that may also, in the long run, be shown to be problematic.

    Never mind, too, that the industry’s idea of “low fat” became the emblematic SnackWell’s and other highly processed “low-fat” carbs (a substitution that is probably the single most important factor in our overweight/obesity problem), as well as reduced fat and even fat-free dairy, on which it made billions of dollars. (How you could produce fat-free “sour cream” is something worth contemplating.)


    But let’s not cry over the chicharrones or even nicely buttered toast we passed up. And let’s not think about the literally millions of people who are repelled by fat, not because it doesn’t taste good (any chef will tell you that “fat is flavor”) but because they have been brainwashed.

    Rather, let’s try once again to pause and think for a moment about how it makes sense for us to eat, and in whose interest it is for us to eat hyperprocessed junk. The most efficient summary might be to say “eat real food” and “avoid anything that didn’t exist 100 years ago.” You might consider a dried apricot (one ingredient) versus a Fruit Roll-Up (13 ingredients, numbers 2, 3 and 4 of which are sugar or forms of added sugar). Or you might reflect that real yogurt has two or three ingredients (milk plus bacteria, with some jam or honey if you like) and that the number in Breyers YoCrunch Cookies n’ Cream Yogurt is unknowable (there are a few instances of “and/or”) but certainly at least 18.


    Many things have gone awry with the way we produce food. And it isn’t just the existence of junk food but the transformation of ingredients we could once take for granted or thought of as “healthy.” Indeed, meat, dairy, wheat and corn have become foods that frequently contain antibiotics and largely untested chemicals, or are produced using hybrids or methods that have increased yield but may have produced unwanted results.
    umanely and reduce their environmental impact. And we can enjoy the better butter, too.
tagging some peoples..


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I just went to a lecture on this very finding :heh:
 
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Salt is natural ingrediant in 95% of Food but there is no need to add it to the food by sprinkling it on. The oils for food to eat with should be coconut oil, avocado oil and extra virgin olive oil. Canola Oil is the worse.

You can always find organic butter which is cleaner.
 

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I cook damn near every meal I eat. My only thing now is I'm seriously overweight for this bodybuilding shyt (BMI is obese). But when I cut down :ahh: I just baked a fcking loaf of bread for Christ's sake. So once I cut down my diet is gonna be :ohlawd: I had a blood lipid scare and switched my whole shyt up, been feeling a lot better.
 
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Salt is an addictive substance point blank. So is sugar. A touch here and there won't kill you but it's hard to consume these things in moderation because of how addictive they can be. Not only that but it becomes near impossible to avoid because of just how engrained they've become in our food supply. EVERYTHING has added salts and sugars now in some capacity.

You have to be very, VERY careful when you go food shopping. I know it's a pain but you really have to read the labels. Any time you see "natural flavors" as an ingredient it's a red flag.
 

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As I get older my tastes are getting a lot milder

Growing up I would have like 200g of sugar a day and I was a fukking twig. I played a lot of sports and was very active though

Now the thought of guzzling a 16oz of soda or having a bag of Skittles kind of disgusts me. I water down my orange juice etc etc. Fast food doesn't digest right for me; the less processed the food I eat is, the better I generally feel. I just need to step up my veggie game and drop these lbs, I will be wavy.
 

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<====happy vegan:ahh:

had a vegan burger last night :ohlawd:


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