"Building around LeBron was miserable" -David Griffin (article)

[Gotright]

He’s living in this world. Every time Lebron wins, it’s because he carried a team full of bums. Whenever he loses, it’s “he needs more help.”

Lebron fans want you think he’s good enough to take any team to the finals and at the same time blame all of his teammates when he loses.

Not since 2011

2012- heat won a ship
2013- heat won a ship
2014- heat lost to one of the best passing complete team I ever saw
2015- injuries played a big role in cavs losing
2016- cavs win
2017- cavs lost to the best all around team I ever witnessed
2018- cavs was just out matched to kd warriors team
2019- lakers miss the playoffs and everybody blames lebron and injuries.
Can you or anybody who dap your post care to tell me what year did lebron lose and they blamed his teammates?

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

The Lakers could have and should have made the playoffs last year...No excuses

Not roster
Not coach
Not Magic fukkery

Their roster was really bad last year. No point guard, shooting guard, or center. No three point shooting, and maybe 1 guy who was good or even better than below average at the foul line. That was one of the most poorly constructed rosters we’d seen in a while. Aside from LeBron, their free agent signings were Rondo, Beasley, Lance, and McGee.

That’s a terrible roster, and that’s before getting into all the injuries and lineup changes. That team was a horribly constructed dumpster fire without any actual strengths as a team while managing to be worst in the league at the line and from deep. They built an NBA team in 2018 with no shooting. None of their big men could stretch the floor & their two most efficient shooters were Lance & Rondo. They really shouldn’t have gotten there with a roster like that.

LeBron only played 55 games and was only healthy for about 30 of them.

Lonzo only played 47 games and was hurting most of the year

Ingram only played 52 games

Rondo only played 46 games

Kuzma only played 70 games


You have THAT many key players missing THAT many games and you don't think it's an obvious excuse? (And you can keep going down the roster - Hart only played 67 games, Lance only played 68 games, Chandler only played 48 games, McGee played 75 games but wasn't 100% for a significant stretch.)

Lakers were trying to figure out how to play together last year and couldn't do it cause every damn player on the team was hurt all the time and they never had a single roster to gel together.

Beat me to it, or at least part of it

 

[hayesc0]

Jordan and Kobe were nothing like LeBron. Stop comparing Bron's p*ssy passive aggressive tendencies and need to always shift the blame onto others with straight killers like Jordan and Kobe.

Jordan and Kobe were straight forward. Bron works behind the scenes like a bytch.

This is why I'm convinced most Bron stans are fakkits and pussies. I honestly don't know how anyone can be a fan of the way Bron operates with his passive aggressive bullshyt. I'm sure most men prefer someone like Kobe just yelling at Mitch Kupchuck to his face when he got a problem rather than doing all the weird p*ssy shyt LeBron does.

Jordan has a completely different and fake public vs private persona on some Hillary Clinton shyt.

 

[Mars]

But yet, I bet his ass would've taken a front office job with the Lakers had it been offered to him.

 

[goatmane]

lebron camp shocked somebody told the truth

 

[ShoryukenHaduken]

Didn't Griffin draft Anthony Bennet and Andrew Wiggins.......

Irving
Waiters
Wiggins
Bennett
Thompson

Your 2015 Cavs if LeBron stays in Mia or leaves for another spot

 

[SunZoo]

Hey hey hey now, we weren't tampering, I don't even like Lebron like that!

 

[Marc Spector]

Im a Bron Stan and yeah this is all believable and not very surprising. People forget, Griff was hired as the guy to rebuild the Cavs after Lebron left the first time. He was all about getting a youthful core and a new, progressive coach to compete in the long term.

Cavs were dead square in the middle of a rebuild before Bron came back. They were eyeing what was probably considered the final piece to get out of mediocrity (the Wiggins Pick) and then all of a sudden....Lebrons back.

.....But on a two year deal. And oh yea, he has an idea to trade the Wiggins Pick for Kevin Love . (Mind you this wound up being the best decision they couldve made but at the time, Griff surely wasnt happy about this)

Two year deal means that Griff was stuck between a rock and a hard place. If he tries to do right by the Cavs and will only make moves to acquire long term players who will carry the team in the future once Lebron is gone? He will be fired because Lebron and his people are in win now mode and you a short window.

If he does everything Lebron wants and builds around him a aging unsustainable yet champion calibre team? He will be fired because the Cavs will be mad if he mortgages their future and it doesnt work out. And if it does workout but Lebron leaves anyway? Griff woulda been right back at square one like he was in 2010.

Griff tried his best and guess what, got let go. Easy to see why.

In a highly mobile player league like the NBA, the GM job is more vulnerable now more than ever.

if you lose a Superstar and you arent the GM who masterminded a ballsy move (Masai) or you dont keep core pieces after a Superstar has a messy exit (Bob Myers) your days are numbered.
Sam Presti next on that summer jam screen.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

Repped for righteous receipts

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

Their roster was really bad last year. No point guard, shooting guard, or center. No three point shooting, and maybe 1 guy who was good or even better than below average at the foul line. That was one of the most poorly constructed rosters we’d seen in a while. Aside from LeBron, their free agent signings were Rondo, Beasley, Lance, and McGee.

That’s a terrible roster, and that’s before getting into all the injuries and lineup changes. That team was a horribly constructed dumpster fire without any actual strengths as a team while managing to be worst in the league at the line and from deep. They built an NBA team in 2018 with no shooting. None of their big men could stretch the floor & their two most efficient shooters were Lance & Rondo. They really shouldn’t have gotten there with a roster like that.


Beat me to it, or at least part of it

You typed a lot
I feel no different

 

[10bandz]

Their roster was really bad last year. No point guard, shooting guard, or center. No three point shooting, and maybe 1 guy who was good or even better than below average at the foul line. That was one of the most poorly constructed rosters we’d seen in a while. Aside from LeBron, their free agent signings were Rondo, Beasley, Lance, and McGee.

That’s a terrible roster, and that’s before getting into all the injuries and lineup changes. That team was a horribly constructed dumpster fire without any actual strengths as a team while managing to be worst in the league at the line and from deep. They built an NBA team in 2018 with no shooting. None of their big men could stretch the floor & their two most efficient shooters were Lance & Rondo. They really shouldn’t have gotten there with a roster like that.


Beat me to it, or at least part of it

"No point guard" yet the lakers were even worse without Zo than they were without Bron, and Rondo was the only real leader on the team

 

[Marc Spector]

Thing is though, nearly every superstar in every sports league have had horrible leadership/teamwork flaws.

Jordan was an egomaniac dikk.
Durant is a insecure headcase with passive leadership skills.
Kobe was a selfish recluse.
Aaron Rodgers is a smug know it all.
A Rod was a self centered diva. Same with Bonds.
Manning was a consistent playoff choker.

Even Curry (who is seen as the ultimate ideal teammate) is a defensive liability in playoff basketball and loses alot of his offensive potency when hes guarded very physically.

Brady, Jeter and Duncan are pretty much the only exceptions to the rule.

 

[Weaver31]

Griff not lying but its kinda fuked up how he said all this about Bron when Bron helped (along with Kyrie) give him a championship, how Bron felt some type of way when Cleveland didn't resign him and how Bron helped his wife. Cacs gonna be cacs regardless.

 

[Marc Spector]

The reality is, when you have an elite player (or players), there is a great deal of pressure to win. And the grind of it wears on everyone.

There isnt a GM anywhere, ever, in ANY SPORT who was part of a big time contender or dynasty that wasnt exhausted or took less joy in the job as time went on.

Repped.

Even Jerry Krause was done with the Dynasty Bulls by '98 and was eagerly awaiting Jordan and 'nem to be gone.

 

[duncanthetall]

Thing is though, nearly every superstar in every sports league have had horrible leadership/teamwork flaws.

Jordan was an egomaniac dikk.
Durant is a insecure headcase with passive leadership skills.
Kobe was a selfish recluse.
Aaron Rodgers is a smug know it all.
A Rod was a self centered diva. Same with Bonds.
Manning was a consistent playoff choker.

Even Curry (who is seen as the ultimate ideal teammate) is a defensive liability in playoff basketball and loses alot of his offensive potency when hes guarded very physically.

Brady, Jeter and Duncan are pretty much the only exceptions to the rule.

TB even rubs some folks the wrong way and they say as such when they leave the franchise.

Every player is gonna have their flaws. It’s just wild. I thought Lakers fans would get over their supposed rivalry or...whatever they have against Bron after a few months or so of him being on the team.

nikkas are mad weird