Brian Scalabrine: Kobe is top 15-25 player of all time

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LMAO DID U JUST EQUATE BEIN THE RUNNER UP TO WINNIN A RING TO BEIN A RUNNER UP TO MVP? BRUH, IT IS WHAT IT IS.. STATS ARE PART OF THE EQUATION, BUT THERE ARE MANY FACTORS THAT GO INTO GREATNESS. MVPS ARE CLEARLY NOT AN INDICATION, BECAUSE IF WE GO BY MVPS AS A SERIOUS MEASURE, NASH IS GREATER THAN KOBE AND SHAQ. WE ALL KNOW KOBE WOULD HAVE MORE MVPS BARRING THE RAPE TRIAL.. SO NAAH, MVPS NOT A FAIR MEASURING STICK TO USE. ACCOMPLISHMENTS ARE MOST IMPORTANT, ALONG WIT THE EYE TEST- WHO HAS STUDIED THE GAME MORE, HAS MORE MOVES, BETTER FOOTWORK, HANDLES, JUMPSHOT, D, HANDLES.. WHAT DOES THE EYE TEST SHOW? THAT AND RING COUNT ARE THE TWO MOST IMPORTANT FACTORS IN ASSESSING GREATNESS.. STATS AND MVPS COME AFTER, BECAUSE THOSE CAN BE VERY CIRCUMSTANTIAL.
You are just further proving my point.

You won't use MVPs because Nash has more than Kobe and Shaq.

But you will use rings even though Horry has more than Kobe and Shaq.

Your motive is to get Kobe to the top by any means necessary. There is no reason for you to keep posting stats and figures that did nothing to shape your opinion.
 
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And Kobe is a poor man's MJ :yeshrug:

2008-09 and 2012-13 Lebron are better than any version of Kobe :manny:

:childplease:

No version of lebron is better than any version of Kobe even torn Achilles kobe. lebron misses free throws with under 2 min left on Christmas to a team he just lost in the finals to. Kobe makes his with a season ending injury.

That to me is a better player
 

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It perplexes me that people consistently miss the point that saying top 15-20 includes potentially higher rankings than 15 or 20 upon deliberation but saying top 5 is more declarative. Its an important distinction if talking objectively because outside of jordan being largely considered as the goat and Kelly as the woat, other spots variate too much in aggregate from knowledgable sources to make such intense declarative without at some point being disingenuous or subjective due to lack of congruent study of other players...its annoying but thoroughly entertaining so proceed.
 

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he had pau gasol, a guy who couldnt do jack shyt in memphis and a bunch of scrubs.... even those laker teams with shaq, they were pretty bad outside of them two
Pau gasol, HOFer who kobe wouldn't have won shyt post shaq without

Lucked out that perk got injured gsme 6....
 

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You are just further proving my point.

You won't use MVPs because Nash has more than Kobe and Shaq.

But you will use rings even though Horry has more than Kobe and Shaq.

Your motive is to get Kobe to the top by any means necessary. There is no reason for you to keep posting stats and figures that did nothing to shape your opinion.


THAT IS NOT THE REASON I WONT USE MVPS...U MUST NOT EVEN BE READING MY POSTS, OR AT THE VERY LEAST HAVING TROUBLE COMPREHENDING THEM. THE REASON WE DONT USE MVPS IS BECAUSE -AGAIN- IT IS A POPULARITY CONTEST...VOTED UPON BY THE SPORTS MEDIA, OLD WHITE JOURNALISTS LIKE BRIAN SCALABRINE, WHO ARE KNOWN FOR HAVING AN AGENDA. FOLLOW ME NOW.


RINGS COUNT BECAUSE IT'S WHAT U PLAY FOR.. IT'S A MEASURE OF ACTUAL ACHIEVEMENT, NOT SOME1 ELSES OPINION ON YOU. AND SINCE BASKETBALL DEPENDS ON SUPERSTAR INDIVIDUALS MORE THAN ANY OTHER SPORT, THE SUPERSTARS WIT RINGS CAN BE COMPARED....ROBERT HORRY IS A ROLE PLAYER, DOESN'T FIT INTO THE DISCUSSION, I HATE WHEN SMART DUMB FICCAZ SAY THAT SHIIT. I DONT HAVE A "MOTIVE", I MERELY OBSERVE AND REPORT AS A STUDENT OF THE GAME.
 

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No version of lebron is better than any version of Kobe even torn Achilles kobe. lebron misses free throws with under 2 min left on Christmas to a team he just lost in the finals to. Kobe makes his with a season ending injury.

That to me is a better player

LOL SERIOUSLY...21 YEAR OLD KOBE WAS ALREADY MORE ADVANCED IN TERMS OF BASKETBALL SKILLS THAN PRIME LEBRON
 
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