Brexit Is Teaching Britain A Lesson In Humility; Boris Johnson finalizes EU Exit Deal!
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i respect it. they aren't even going to bother pretending that it's factually good for their country. they'll trot out some anecdotal shyt because that's what their voters eat up and what they deserve. you don't get in this mess with just poor leadership, it's poor citizenship as well.
I just think there going to let it fail and put it on the ballot to go back
No going back. They opened this pandora's box and riled up the mob. It would take utter economic decimation to make the UK tuck their tail between their legs and beg back.
thats exactly going to happen, have they mass hired foreign drivers?
Trying to.
No one wants to come back..... I think the last time I read less than 30 people were interested.
I think i read somewhere it would take over a decade for them to get back in, also they couldn't get back in unless they resolved an issue with ireland because they have veto.
10 years?
negotiations because they damn sure won't have the same privileges they had before they left.
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Conservative peer calls for shortage of au pairs to be fixed by special Brexit rules
Nadine Batchelor-Hunt
·Political Correspondent - Yahoo News UK
Tue, 9 November 2021, 8:35 am·3-min read
Baroness Hodgson of Abinger. (Chris McAndrew/Creative Commons)
A Conservative peer has called on the government to introduce special immigration rules to fix a shortage of au pairs.
Baroness Hodgson of Abinger told the House of Lords that Brexit had meant there was no visa route to bring au pairs to the UK.
Speaking in the House of Lords on Monday, she said the lack of au pairs would affect "hard-working families".
She said the government had previously promised a temporary visa work route, but that none had yet to be delivered.
"The au pair scheme... is an excellent scheme: it gives hard-working families the benefit of flexible childcare, and au pairs leave the UK with improved English and are great ambassadors," Baroness Abinger said.
"According to the British Au Pair Agencies Association, Caroline Nokes, the Immigration Minister in 2019, gave assurances that there would be a temporary visa work route for au pairs, but this has not happened.
"Can my noble friend the Minister inform the House of when we can expect this to occur and will she undertake to expedite this issue?
Baroness Williams of Trafford has ruled out any special treatement for au pairs. (parliamentlive.tv)
According to the British Au Pair Agencies Associations (BAPAA), over 40,000 families in the UK relied on au pairs for childcare when changes to immigration rules came into place post-Brexit.
Baroness Abinger's comments were mocked by some, with Conservative peer Lord Lilley - a high-profile supporter of Brexit - warning that peers would be "left open to ridicule if the only exception we are prepared to make is to help us deal with the servant problem".
The field of au pairs is not the only area that has faced immigration difficulties since the UK left the EU - with changes to immigration rules also exacerbating worker shortages caused by the pandemic in areas like HGV drivers and fruit pickers, with affected sectors calling for the government to adjust immigration rules.
Earlier this year, the government agreed to provide HGV drivers from Europe with temporary visas until Christmas Eve to help tackle the crisis ahead of the festive period when driver shortages will have the greatest impact on consumers in shops and supermarkets.
Conservative home office minister Baroness Williams of Trafford told the Lords the government did not have plans to amend the au pair system.
HGV have seen steep payrises amid driver shortages this year in part caused by a reduction of lower paid EU workers (PA Images)
One of the key arguments Brexit supporters made during the referendum, and post-Brexit, is that foreign workers often work for less in certain sectors and therefore pushed wages down.
This was demonstrated in part when British HGV drivers saw large pay rises amid driver shortages.
Au pairs provide childcare and help out with household chores and in return usually receive free board, free lodging, as well as around £75-£85 per week as per government guidelines.
However, critics say the changes to the au pair system impact young people seeking to explore different countries the most by limiting their opportunities.
"This is not really about au pairs, is it?" said Labour peer, Baroness Chapman of Darlington
"This is about opportunities for young people.
"Is it not correct that the Government did not think about opportunities for young people when they did their Brexit deal, just like they did not think about food producers, the cultural industries or even the people of Northern Ireland?"
Last year, BAPAA chairwoman Jamie Shackell told the BBC that the end of the au pair arrangement with the EU would cause families both at home and abroad real difficulties in childcare.
"Families have said they might have to give up work and claim benefits because they cannot afford to have a nanny, and breakfast and afternoon clubs don't work if you work shifts," said Shackell.
"We are flummoxed by it all. It's a mutually-beneficially cultural exchange programme."
Conservative peer calls for shortage of au pairs to be fixed by special Brexit rules
Nadine Batchelor-Hunt
·Political Correspondent - Yahoo News UK
Tue, 9 November 2021, 8:35 am·3-min read
Baroness Hodgson of Abinger. (Chris McAndrew/Creative Commons)
A Conservative peer has called on the government to introduce special immigration rules to fix a shortage of au pairs.
Baroness Hodgson of Abinger told the House of Lords that Brexit had meant there was no visa route to bring au pairs to the UK.
Speaking in the House of Lords on Monday, she said the lack of au pairs would affect "hard-working families".
She said the government had previously promised a temporary visa work route, but that none had yet to be delivered.
"The au pair scheme... is an excellent scheme: it gives hard-working families the benefit of flexible childcare, and au pairs leave the UK with improved English and are great ambassadors," Baroness Abinger said.
"According to the British Au Pair Agencies Association, Caroline Nokes, the Immigration Minister in 2019, gave assurances that there would be a temporary visa work route for au pairs, but this has not happened.
"Can my noble friend the Minister inform the House of when we can expect this to occur and will she undertake to expedite this issue?
Baroness Williams of Trafford has ruled out any special treatement for au pairs. (parliamentlive.tv)
According to the British Au Pair Agencies Associations (BAPAA), over 40,000 families in the UK relied on au pairs for childcare when changes to immigration rules came into place post-Brexit.
Baroness Abinger's comments were mocked by some, with Conservative peer Lord Lilley - a high-profile supporter of Brexit - warning that peers would be "left open to ridicule if the only exception we are prepared to make is to help us deal with the servant problem".
The field of au pairs is not the only area that has faced immigration difficulties since the UK left the EU - with changes to immigration rules also exacerbating worker shortages caused by the pandemic in areas like HGV drivers and fruit pickers, with affected sectors calling for the government to adjust immigration rules.
Earlier this year, the government agreed to provide HGV drivers from Europe with temporary visas until Christmas Eve to help tackle the crisis ahead of the festive period when driver shortages will have the greatest impact on consumers in shops and supermarkets.
Conservative home office minister Baroness Williams of Trafford told the Lords the government did not have plans to amend the au pair system.
HGV have seen steep payrises amid driver shortages this year in part caused by a reduction of lower paid EU workers (PA Images)
One of the key arguments Brexit supporters made during the referendum, and post-Brexit, is that foreign workers often work for less in certain sectors and therefore pushed wages down.
This was demonstrated in part when British HGV drivers saw large pay rises amid driver shortages.
Au pairs provide childcare and help out with household chores and in return usually receive free board, free lodging, as well as around £75-£85 per week as per government guidelines.
However, critics say the changes to the au pair system impact young people seeking to explore different countries the most by limiting their opportunities.
"This is not really about au pairs, is it?" said Labour peer, Baroness Chapman of Darlington
"This is about opportunities for young people.
"Is it not correct that the Government did not think about opportunities for young people when they did their Brexit deal, just like they did not think about food producers, the cultural industries or even the people of Northern Ireland?"
Last year, BAPAA chairwoman Jamie Shackell told the BBC that the end of the au pair arrangement with the EU would cause families both at home and abroad real difficulties in childcare.
"Families have said they might have to give up work and claim benefits because they cannot afford to have a nanny, and breakfast and afternoon clubs don't work if you work shifts," said Shackell.
"We are flummoxed by it all. It's a mutually-beneficially cultural exchange programme."
Brexit turns Europe's biggest fish market in Peterhead into 'ghost town'
Brexit turns Europe's biggest fish market in Peterhead into 'ghost town'
Food industry chiefs are furious as boats are tied up and exporters protest at Tory government.
By
Torcuil CrichtonWestminster Editor
Andy Philip
Peterhead fish market was said to be like a 'ghost town' (Image: William Clark)
Europe’s biggest fish market is like a “ghost town” because of the devastating impact of Brexit, a food industry boss warned.
A stark image of the vast site at Peterhead in north-east Scotland shows the effect of Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s trade deal after leaving the EU, it was claimed.
It comes one day after Scottish seafood exporters parked a convoy of lorries in the heart of Westminster where the UK Government faced a massive backlash.
James Withers, chief executive of Scottish Food and Drink, said the image was taken today around 5am when the market is under way.
"This is a crisis," he warned. "It was warned about for weeks, and now we're going through a live test for trade with the EU and it's going wrong.
"Systems in the UK and France aren't talking to each other, and frankly it's a myth any red tape has been cut. The exact opposite is happening."
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Yesterday, around 50 trucks arrived in London angry at the disruption to exports.
One truck was emblazoned with “Brexit Carnage”, while another said “Incompetent Government Destroying Shellfish Industry”, as they parked up just metres from Downing Street.
Scotland’s fishing industry was told to expect a “sea of opportunity” after leaving the EU. Senior figures in the Scottish Fishermen’s Federation promoted the slogan despite deep fears for the supply chain, inshore fishers and exporters.
Within two weeks of officially leaving with a trade deal, federation chief Elspeth Macdonald was accusing the Prime Minister of giving them the “worst of both worlds”.
The bosses of a Brexit-backing Scottish fishing organisation have told Boris Johnson his trade deal leaves the industry with “the worst of both worlds”.
She slammed a “desperately poor deal” which “is not what you promised the fishing industry”.
The federation said the idustry faces “mounting financial losses” since the Brexit deal they campaigned for was finally delivered.
Dominic Raab, the UK Foreign Secretary, claimed on Sunday that the delays to fishing exports were just “teething problems”.
Brexit turns Europe's biggest fish market in Peterhead into 'ghost town'
Food industry chiefs are furious as boats are tied up and exporters protest at Tory government.
By
Torcuil CrichtonWestminster Editor
Andy Philip
- 14:17, 19 JAN 2021
- UPDATED13:42, 12 NOV 2021
Peterhead fish market was said to be like a 'ghost town' (Image: William Clark)
Europe’s biggest fish market is like a “ghost town” because of the devastating impact of Brexit, a food industry boss warned.
A stark image of the vast site at Peterhead in north-east Scotland shows the effect of Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s trade deal after leaving the EU, it was claimed.
It comes one day after Scottish seafood exporters parked a convoy of lorries in the heart of Westminster where the UK Government faced a massive backlash.
James Withers, chief executive of Scottish Food and Drink, said the image was taken today around 5am when the market is under way.
"This is a crisis," he warned. "It was warned about for weeks, and now we're going through a live test for trade with the EU and it's going wrong.
"Systems in the UK and France aren't talking to each other, and frankly it's a myth any red tape has been cut. The exact opposite is happening."
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Yesterday, around 50 trucks arrived in London angry at the disruption to exports.
One truck was emblazoned with “Brexit Carnage”, while another said “Incompetent Government Destroying Shellfish Industry”, as they parked up just metres from Downing Street.
Scotland’s fishing industry was told to expect a “sea of opportunity” after leaving the EU. Senior figures in the Scottish Fishermen’s Federation promoted the slogan despite deep fears for the supply chain, inshore fishers and exporters.
Within two weeks of officially leaving with a trade deal, federation chief Elspeth Macdonald was accusing the Prime Minister of giving them the “worst of both worlds”.
The bosses of a Brexit-backing Scottish fishing organisation have told Boris Johnson his trade deal leaves the industry with “the worst of both worlds”.
She slammed a “desperately poor deal” which “is not what you promised the fishing industry”.
The federation said the idustry faces “mounting financial losses” since the Brexit deal they campaigned for was finally delivered.
Dominic Raab, the UK Foreign Secretary, claimed on Sunday that the delays to fishing exports were just “teething problems”.
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@88m3 and what rights do the people have to fight back. that rule by precedent and convention is a dangerous thing and is open to serious abuse.
unbelievable.
even born brits can be stripped of their citizenship.
when oh when are the people of the uk going to expect and demand fundamental rights and a modern society.
*people **ahem** serfs ...
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on another note is seems like the queen is on her last legs.
unbelievable.
even born brits can be stripped of their citizenship.
when oh when are the people of the uk going to expect and demand fundamental rights and a modern society.
*people **ahem** serfs ...
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on another note is seems like the queen is on her last legs.