Brehs, Where do you think China's position will be in the next 50 years?

[Domingo Halliburton]

This doesnt have to be some zero sum game. @ FAH shouldn't be mod. He gets his news from RT.

 

[Tom Foolery]

50 years is an eternity. In 1900 the British controlled the "empire upon which the sun never sets."

A few things to consider:

1. Whether the growing middle class will be OK with the communist party power structure and all that comes with it (lack of political freedom etc).

2. Environmental degradation

3. Whether the US relationship with China's neighbors (Japan. S. Korea, Taiwan etc) remains strong or if they start being drawn into China's orbit.

Yeah, 30 should have been the max.

But do you see any counter to this? They seem to hoarding property and ownership all over the world.

This doesnt have to be some zero sum game. @ FAH shouldn't be mod. He gets his news from RT.

Explain I'm open to hear this.

 

[JahFocus CS]

Depends on how World War 3 turns out

 

[FAH1223]

This doesnt have to be some zero sum game. @ FAH shouldn't be mod. He gets his news from RT.

I get my news from everywhere

And what I posted is the truth. The Chinese will be positioned as the hegemon of the East. Will they have military bases all over the world like the USA? I doubt it.

Even the USA will have to abandon an empire of military bases eventually.

 

[Tflasha]

Cacs would whipe an entire Diaspora off the face of the map before they let that happen





















- WW3 is gonna be Evil amplified by a houndred thousand TRILLION

 

[JahFocus CS]

@ FAH shouldn't be mod. He gets his news from RT.

MSNBC, CNN, FOX, etc. are no better than RT. At least RT covers a lot of topics that are not given proper attention in the U.S.

 

[GnauzBookOfRhymes]

Yeah, 30 should have been the max.

But do you see any counter to this? They seem to hoarding property and ownership all over the world.

The Chinese government is definitely using the same strategy as the US during the post WW2/Cold War era of seeking partnerships with poorer nations around the world based on an exchange of development dollars for raw materials/natural resources. These countries will also presumably be new markets for Chinese goods (from manufactured consumer goods to weapons).

But one thing to note is that when you talk about private Chinese investment (for instance all the real estate being purchased by Chinese investors), a lot of that is a sign that these people are not as optimistic about the future. They're taking their money out of China for a reason. Whether that's due to worries about China's political structure and/or the fundamental strength of its economy is probably case by case (corruption is also a huge driver).

A lot of the growth in the Chinese economy is driven by huge government investment and subsidization. It's probably the best route for their current situation. That's not to suggest that they need to adopt US/neoliberal policies - but the extent to which many of Chinas largest industries depend on public support is not sustainable in the long term.

The advantage the Chinese have is that they have their eyes on the future, and they count that by generations, not like the US where all major decisions are made based on the presidential/congressional calendars.

Should be interesting.

 

[Red Shield]

Depends on how World War 3 turns out

Russia and China will still be around. I'm confident about that much.

I get my news from everywhere

And what I posted is the truth. The Chinese will be positioned as the hegemon of the East. Will they have military bases all over the world like the USA? I doubt it.

Even the USA will have to abandon an empire of military bases eventually.

Pretty much. No country in the future is hitting the heights the USA hit. That type of build up ain't there anymore

The usa will not be abandoning anything. Americans aren't the type to pull back, so this place will have to be completely destroyed.

 

[MikeyC]

#1 superpower on the Eastside

 

[FAH1223]

Russia and China will still be around. I'm confident about that much.





Pretty much. No country in the future is hitting the heights the USA hit. That type of build up ain't there anymore

The usa will not be abandoning anything. Americans aren't the type to pull back, so this place will have to be completely destroyed.

The parasitic entity that has taken over government in the west will collapse due to its inherent contradictions. If the plan for WW3 to cancel all un-payable debts to-restart again is prevented they will recede back to how they were in the 40's and 50's and return to government control.

The French refer to the period after WW2 as Trente Glorieuses, the 30 years of prosperity. This is the period of the German economic miracle, the Japanese and basically all of western Europe. What they all have in common was that they were all democratic with some socialist policies in one way or another. The banks were also beasts of burden like donkeys, and governments were the drivers. Today, the banks are the driver and the governments are the donkeys.

Surprisingly, the bankers seem to have launched a coordinated takeover of all the west between 1971 and 1974. This coincides with the petrodollar and the end of the 30 years boom.

Its weird that within 2 years every single western European country and even Canada , Australia and New Zealand all had specific laws banning the government from ever issuing money on its own using public credit, all money issued has to be loaned from banks. At exactly the same time in all the same countries all the banks started to experiment with derivatives.

When US Dollar hegemony ends within our lifetimes, the USA will actually be able to reinvented with a stronger economy that can focus on the resources here, the infrastructure needs here, and the general welfare of its citizens rather than maintaining an empire to control the world.

 

[Red Shield]

The parasitic entity that has taken over government in the west will collapse due to its inherent contradictions. If the plan for WW3 to cancel all un-payable debts to-restart again is prevented they will recede back to how they were in the 40's and 50's and return to government control.

The French refer to the period after WW2 as Trente Glorieuses, the 30 years of prosperity. This is the period of the German economic miracle, the Japanese and basically all of western Europe. What they all have in common was that they were all democratic with some socialist policies in one way or another. The banks were also beasts of burden like donkeys, and governments were the drivers. Today, the banks are the driver and the governments are the donkeys.

Surprisingly, the bankers seem to have launched a coordinated takeover of all the west between 1971 and 1974. This coincides with the petrodollar and the end of the 30 years boom.

Its weird that within 2 years every single western European country and even Canada , Australia and New Zealand all had specific laws banning the government from ever issuing money on its own using public credit, all money issued has to be loaned from banks. At exactly the same time in all the same countries all the banks started to experiment with derivatives.

When US Dollar hegemony ends within our lifetimes, the USA will actually be able to reinvented with a stronger economy that can focus on the resources here, the infrastructure needs here, and the general welfare of its citizens rather than maintaining an empire to control the world.

Reinvented? I mean I guess if that's what you wanna call the new nations that arise from the usa's glassed corpse.

 

[Free White & 21]

China got next and it's gonna take around 20 years max for them to break out of the western stranglehold.





Thank god

 

[Free White & 21]

When US Dollar hegemony ends within our lifetimes, the USA will actually be able to reinvented with a stronger economy that can focus on the resources here, the infrastructure needs here, and the general welfare of its citizens rather than maintaining an empire to control the world.

The key word here is ABLE. But we both know these EuroPEONS aint gonna reinvent a damn thing

They're done.

 

[TheAlbionist]

Ask me five years ago and I thought they might implode economically and ecogically but what I've been reading for the last few years sounds a lot more promising. If they can stay together and keep their people happy enough not to revolt they automatically have next. They're the only other possible hyperpower these days and they're moving in ways the US can't/won't. Forest cities. Solar panda bears. The future looks pretty Chinese atm.

 

[Tom Foolery]

Ask me five years ago and I thought they might implode economically and ecogically but what I've been reading for the last few years sounds a lot more promising. If they can stay together and keep their people happy enough not to revolt they automatically have next. They're the only other possible hyperpower these days and they're moving in ways the US can't/won't. Forest cities. Solar panda bears. The future looks pretty Chinese atm.

It's funny how for the last 2 decades, America was so critical of domestic policies. Now look what happened.

China politicking about how to invest this money, America politicking on Tranny rights.