brehs, what philosophy books I should read ?

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Really good channel to get yourself more familiar. Can also guide you to what you’d be more interested in reading. I like Eastern and African shyt more than Western philosophy but it’s good to get a rounded viewpoint.

Philosophy some hardcore shyt cuz you questioning everything at that point lol.

You got a link for an African reading list? I had this duscussion years ago on reddit, in the subreddit the person with experience was mentioning that African philosophy isn't as formally structured in the way we are familiar with Western and Eastern philosophy so it makes it harder to get a framework

 

[trap101-ETHout-Allegri-In]

socrates and orunmila, two patron saints of classical philosophy - sophie oluwole
MDW NTR -jacob carruthers
Black Marxism - cedric robinson
Of Black Study - josh myers
Mapping Yoruba Networks - Dr. Kamari Maxine Clarke
Récréations géométriques d'Afrique - Lusona - Géométricale -- Paulus Gerdes
Ifá - Fela Sowande (hard to find, get an interlibrary loan from your library)
Yurugu - Marimba Ani

be careful with some of these suggestions, a lot of these books are very seductive to another cultural perspective that you may not want to be a part of. The book i suggested included. Try to understand what you want to gain from philosophy and look for those talking about that.

that being said of "philosophers" meaning as most people here are talking about them as cacs,
nietzche (thus spake zarathustra genealogy of morals)
wittgenstein (tractatus, philosophical investigations (if you can stomach it.)
deleuze and guattari (a thousand plateaus, anti-oedipus)

forget about them greeks/romans: Black Athena Vol 1-3 - martin bernal, then refer again back to Yurugu for a full dissection of Platonism, nietzche does this as well but Marimba does it from a more accessible, culturally relevant perspective.
socrates was cool but plato wasnt.

alot of these books you can get off the shelf/by request from @2Quik4UHoes

Booklist I've been compiling bout to be lit...

 

[Peter Popoff]

Atomic habits, millionaire next door, rich dad, poor dad, anything by Malcolm Gladwell or Tanehisi Coates, the bible, etc...

 

[Jimmy from Linkedin]

You 'bout to scare breh off or turn him into an incel fukkin' with the Tractatus and Philosophical Investigations.... may as well suggest Cratylus.

I mean lol I gave ordered priority to what I consider valuable. If he becomes an incel off of tractatus then he was going to do it off of craytlus or Aurelius. All that stuff I look at suspect.

I think the only value of western philosophy is helping black people verbalize how they intuitively understand white folks to think and act. Beyond that I'm not sure it's worth helping a black person how to think and act. That's what african philosophy, meaning the process of thought contained within traditional African spirituality, is for. The tough part is finding authors of traditional african philosophy who aren't covert Christians or platonists or white-aspirants.

If someone wants to be a Christian/Abrahamic then reading Plato is very helpful. If someone wants to be a capitalist, then reading Plato is very helpful. If you want to help consider alternatives to the current hegemonic mode, I think Plato is helpful to the extent that you understand it propels the hegemonic mode, but if it is used in an alternative, it will recreate the current mode.

That being said I wish we could've had Socrates without the telephone game of Plato, and even Plato admits Socrates did the bulk of his learning in Africa, so might as well go to where he learned from, considering he was so influential.

There is so much to learn from home.

Thanks for your observation, if homie takes those recs and your and our words seriously, he could also prevail and see how limiting western philosophy is.

 

[Jean toomer]

Black Skin, White Masks - Frantz Fanon
Discourse on Colonialism - Aime Cesaire
Africa Must Unite - Kwame Nkrumah
Neocolonialism: The Last Stage of Imperialism - Kwame Nkrumah

More formal African/African diaspora philosophy books here:
African Philosophy Books

Just picked this up over the weekend.
Anything by Gilles delouze or Foucault, and if you want to fukk your mind up nietzsche - beyond good and evil

 

[Jimmy from Linkedin]

Booklist I've been compiling bout to be lit...

Whenever you get through any one of those books hmu and we can fractalize out the directions according to your thoughts

 

[Peter Popoff]

Some of these have free audio books on Spotify. Being that I multitasks almost 9.7/10, I'll check em out. 🫡

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

You got a link for an African reading list? I had this duscussion years ago on reddit, in the subreddit the person with experience was mentioning that African philosophy isn't as formally structured in the way we are familiar with Western and Eastern philosophy so it makes it harder to get a framework

Some good ones have been mentioned already, I know that Kwasi Wiredu was a contemporary voice that passed recently I’d check his stuff out though it might get pricey. Super brilliant guy, I still need to get into his work. Olufemi Taiwo is good too.

I really liked African Cosmology of the Bantu Kongo by Kimbwandènde Fu-Kiau since it gives you a good window into Bantu-Kongo living in all aspects from ethics to jurisprudence to concepts of spiritualism. Maybe also try Decolonising the Mind by Ngugi wa Thiang’o or Consciencism by Kwame Nkrumah.

Sad truth tho is there’s still not enough out there and in some cases like Nkrumah his work is much tougher to get than before.

 

[Fresh]

I would like everyone in my thread for your input and recommendations

 

[trap101-ETHout-Allegri-In]

Black Skin, White Masks - Frantz Fanon
Discourse on Colonialism - Aime Cesaire
Africa Must Unite - Kwame Nkrumah
Neocolonialism: The Last Stage of Imperialism - Kwame Nkrumah

More formal African/African diaspora philosophy books here:
African Philosophy Books

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[Tair]

Try Soren Kierkegaard's, "The Sickness Unto Death."

 

[maxamusa]

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