Breh on twitter is posting news clips from the 80's crack era

[NoMayo15]

Folks in here really cosigning that crime bill. Are you fukking serious? The government wasnt interested in saving lives, more like taking them. They knew what they were doing with the crack era. Not saying guilty folks are innocent but yall really cosigning the government exploiting the problem instead of fixing it. Please.

And how exactly would you have fixed it?

 

[BrownBunny]

A lot of you ghetto-born 1980-1990 babies are obsessed with crack and the crack era. This is the second thread in a week on it. It’s like you’re honorary crackheads.

I’m still young, was raised in a middle class neighborhood, my parents don’t even drink, and a distant 2nd cousin is the only crack addict in my entire family. I can’t relate.

 

[Waterproof]

Trash era, nail in the coffin for the black American community. Now it’s just the walking dead

I'm heading to the gym after I come back I'm going to eat your lunch and grab your shirt and wipe my hands. It was a great era.

See in the 80's it was black love and black pride, you walk in a Black Home you knew you where in a Black Home, Black And African Art, Black pictures of leaders, Soul Music Playing. You was taught about our history, we had many books on our culture. Raised by the community meaning your neighbor will bust yo ass while your folks was gone.

Great hip hop culture thriving, We played outside all day, old heads taught us to fight. We know how to hunt and fish. Had real family reunions

Y'all grandma's are born in the 60's our grandma was born in the in the early 19 teens and 20's and 30's so we grew up learned from the elders who know how to cook real soul food, heal our sickness with holistic medicine from the south.

nikka I can go on and on. We are the last era of realness and soul

 

[Pazzy]

And how exactly would you have fixed it?

What would have I done to fix it?

You're talking like this is a 1, 2, 3 thing. The solution cannot be explained in simple terms. Thats a whole entire book series, college course and etc. It ain't simple. We would have to talk about history. The dynamics of this country. Racism. Social welfare. A whole lot of shyt.


Do you honestly think the crime bill saved lives and bettered the country? Be honest. Who exactly did it save? The crime bill still ruining lives to this day. Its to the point where they literally are freeing prisoners because they cant afford to keep them.

 

[NoMayo15]

What would have I done to fix it?

You're talking like this is a 1, 2, 3 thing.

Do you honestly think the crime bill saved lives and bettered the country? Be honest.

I don't know. But I understand government is limited in how they can address problems like this.

Widespread drug addiction and deaths. Widespread gang warfare over drugs and territory. Innocent people gunned down by stray bullets nightly.

I can't discredit and come down hard on a bunch of people who never really grew up in that lifestyle, don't understand extreme poverty and addiction, and are flooded with demands for immediate solutions to complex problems.

And it makes me sick to see regular nobodies, who never had responsibilities on that level, criticize but provide no solutions of their own.

 

[NoMayo15]

Who exactly did it save?

This is an impossible question because we can't go back in time to see what would happen if the crime bill never happened.

100k new polices officers. 6 billion dollars towards crime prevention programs.

I don't know. Maybe a million kids, instead of being productive members of society today, get hooked on crack, and die or kill a million others to get their next fix.

Maybe one of the automatic rifles that was banned as a result of the bill remains on the streets... is bought by some vato, and he opens fire on a crowded strip mall.

The possibilities of what might have otherwise happened are truly endless.

 

[truth2you]

And how exactly would you have fixed it?

That would have been easy to fix

First, you find who selling illegal guns which is easy to do. That curbs the shootings, but police need violence or they would be out of jobs. They just need to keep in contained to poor people who have no power to stop anything. Since the 80's, so many ex police, and prosecutors, advanced in their positions, and got paid!

Second, you shut down the spots, but because the government was bringing the cocaine in, stopping the deals would have been hard. Educated hotep brothers used to tell us the government planted the drugs, but there was no proof until 1996, and the cover up was blown open

Third, you invest in rehab centers for adults. Then invest in things for kids to do. You also invest in food pantry, and clothing, this way less kids are enticed to get into the game from being poor

All of this will go to white communities because they aren't seen as low class people who need to be locked up.

Studies were done that showed what needed to be done since the 70's, but because it hit black people, prison was a better solution. Black people felt the same way as whites, self hate is real.

Even the rise of police misconduct was studied in the 70'S, and warned that police needed to have some sort of watch on them or they would get out if control, specifically the prison system, but no one cared. Now, prison is a big business where states are paid to keep them filled! You know who is the group who occupies most of them. Black men!

 

[richaveli83]

One of my earliest memories was my mom with a knife holding off a crack head who broke into our apartment until the police arrived. The 80s and early 90s were so crazy.

 

[The_Sheff]

Folks in here really cosigning that crime bill. Are you fukking serious? The government wasnt interested in saving lives, more like taking them. They knew what they were doing with the crack era. Not saying guilty folks are innocent but yall really cosigning the government exploiting the problem instead of fixing it. Please.

You missed the point completely. That bill had community support, people were pushing for it. So 30 years later with 20/20 vision you can't start shytting on politicians who were around to support it.

 

[Wildhundreds]

I don't know. But I understand government is limited in how they can address problems like this.

Widespread drug addiction and deaths. Widespread gang warfare over drugs and territory. Innocent people gunned down by stray bullets nightly.

I can't discredit and come down hard on a bunch of people who never really grew up in that lifestyle, don't understand extreme poverty and addiction, and are flooded with demands for immediate solutions to complex problems.

And it makes me sick to see regular nobodies, who never had responsibilities on that level, criticize but provide no solutions of their own.

You had some "regular nobodies" who seen the systemic attack on black people leaving the jim crow south..

The government aided in the removal of factory jobs from the communities black people moved to for work..

Then, the government "secretly" shipped in drugs, to provide a destructive means to survive.

Then when the violence reached epidemic levels, the government came right in to provide a solution.. mass incarceration..

Then while all of this was happening, the inner city public school system had the prison pipeline going..

So you were either dead in jail or a functional illiterate, heading towards a dead end of poverty..

They knew exactly what they were doing with that crime bill..

White people are not stupid when it comes to destroying shyt..

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Do you honestly think the crime bill saved lives and bettered the country? Be honest. Who exactly did it save? The crime bill still ruining lives to this day. Its to the point where they literally are freeing prisoners because they cant afford to keep them.

This won't be a popular opinion, but the Crime Bill saved more people than it harmed. If you survived the 80's like some of us did, you'd understand.

Did it go overboard? Absolutely.

At that time, it was NOTHING to see whole families/neighborhoods destroyed by predators allowed to roam freely preying on their own people because law enforcement was understaffed, underarmed, and undertrained to deal with what was going on. Gangs, dealers, and straight criminals ran the streets, the businesses, and in many places, the local government.​

There are people from my childhood/teens that I am glad will NEVER be free.​

 

[NoMayo15]

That would have been easy to fix

First, you find who selling illegal guns which is easy to do. That curbs the shootings, but police need violence or they would be out of jobs. They just need to keep in contained to poor people who have no power to stop anything

Easy to do? Are you fukking high? Do you have any experience in law enforcement or any expertise in this at all? Do you know how difficult it is to prevent crime in a country as large as ours? Not to mention prevent or stop criminals abroad?

Second, you shut down the spots, but because the government was bringing the cocaine in, stopping the deals would have been hard. Educated hotep brothers used to tell us the government planted the drugs, but there was no proof until 1996, and the cover up was blown open

This is just wrong and teetering on conspiratorial speech. The government alone wasn't bringing in drugs like cocaine into the country. You had fool-blown cartels from around the world trying to figure out ways to get drugs into the US.

Third, you invest in rehab centers for adults. Then invest in things for kids to do. You also invest in food pantry, and clothing, this way less kids are enticed to get into the game from being poor

I don't argue against this, but again, investments like these DID happen in the 90s, and it was largely due to liberals who get hounded for these policies today.

All of this will go to white communities because they aren't seen as low class people who need to be locked up. Black people felt the same way as whites, self hate us real.

Studies were done that showed what needed to be done since the 70's, but because it hit black people, prison was a better solution. Black people felt the same way as whites, self hate us real.

Even the rise of police misconduct was studied in the 70'S, and warned that police needed to have some sort of watch on them or they would get out if control, specifically the prison system, but no one cared. Now, prison is a big business where states are paid to keep them filled!

I won't argue this either. The general consensus felt much differently about the "cocaine cowboy" era as they do about the meth problems today. But that is due largely, I think, in the drastically reduced amount of violent crimes we're seeing now compared to the 80's and 90's directly derived from drugs.

 

[NoMayo15]

You had some "regular nobodies" who seen the systemic attack on black people leaving the jim crow south..

The government aided in the removal of factory jobs from the communities black people moved to for work..

Then, the government "secretly" shipped in drugs, to provide a destructive means to survive.

Then when the violence reached epidemic levels, the government came right in to provide a solution.. mass incarceration..

Then while all of this was happening, the inner city public school system had the prison pipeline going..

So you were either dead in jail or a functional illiterate, heading towards a dead end of poverty..

They knew exactly what they were doing with that crime bill..

White people are not stupid when it comes to destroying shyt..

When you say "the government" did all these things, who specifically are you talking about?

 

[Wildhundreds]

You missed the point completely. That bill had community support, people were pushing for it. So 30 years later with 20/20 vision you can't start shytting on politicians who were around to support it.

When common people are being held hostage by their own kind, they'll do anything for some relief..

Even if its at the destruction of their own kind..

I bet the nikkas who supported that crime bill never imagined the 1000s of false arrests that would follow..

Now the same people who supported the crime bill now support prison reform..

These white people got us running in circles and loving every moment of it..

 

[truth2you]

You missed the point completely. That bill had community support, people were pushing for it. So 30 years later with 20/20 vision you can't start shytting on politicians who were around to support it.

Yes you can, their job is to come up with solutions that protect, and repair, what's broken, not make it worse

If what you say is true, why weren't whites being locked up in large numbers for decades from drugs? The heroin, and meth epidemic has been happening since the late 90's, ealry 2000's but black men have been getting locked even more since then. Not for violence, for drugs, that is why the crime bill is considered a joke

So yes, those politicians new what they were doing. You mean they could lock us up because black people wanted it, even though it costs them around $25000 a head, but when we say we want reparations, they can't do it? nikka please