Voice of Reason
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If you find him on linkedin he actually posted proof
Breh makes 500k as a self taught software Engineer
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If you find him on linkedin he actually posted proof
Good for him but I don’t recommend that route. I started out with no degree it’s definitely a setback.
MoveForward
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That’s awesome… I wish I would’ve gotten into IT and all of that sh*t.
If you find him on linkedin he actually posted proof
You can leetcode your way into that TC too.
Edit: I'll recommend get a degree though. Tech is doing good now and engineers, bootcamp or degreed, are in demand but if that ever change I feel places would tighten up and filter out bootcamp candidates. Also there is no gauranteed that you'll like tech or not get washed out like many people do. So having a degree to fall back on something else is important
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How much of a setback is it compared to having to do a 4 year degree and taking student loans? Like even if it takes 2 years of diligently grinding and being rejected until you get that first gig you're still 2 years ahead of someone who went the degree route and debt free.
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Ain't shyt
UpAndComing
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"Colleges are outdated in new topics"
100% truth right there. I remember I wanted to be a Developer and was taking Linear Algebra class and thinking this was a waste lol
Bootcamps or Online courses are way more efficient and way less expensive
100% truth right there. I remember I wanted to be a Developer and was taking Linear Algebra class and thinking this was a waste lol
Bootcamps or Online courses are way more efficient and way less expensive
As a CS grad, i wouldn't recommend a bootcamp for people trying to get into software development.
A majority of jobs that I have seen so far...require a CS degree and for every 10 people that go through
a bootcamp ...i would say that 2-3 are able to get a job right away.
Plus without a CS degree , you dont have that high of a ceiling.
A majority of jobs that I have seen so far...require a CS degree and for every 10 people that go through
a bootcamp ...i would say that 2-3 are able to get a job right away.
Plus without a CS degree , you dont have that high of a ceiling.
No degree, first job somewhere in Silicon Valley like Facebook or Google? Practically impossible.
No degree, first job Jr Developer at a small to medium sized company or start up in the Midwest. With a Midwest jr developer salary? Much more likely.
Prove yourself at that no name company. Move on to your next challenge. And in the time it would have taken you to get that degree you won’t be at $500k but you’ll be in the 6 digits.
I’m at a California company. We just hired a no degree,no bootcamp, first job, self taught Jr Developer a few years ago. Just off of the strength of her GitHub projects and programming challenge. What also helped was her market rate was cheap and gave us money back in our budget, she was eager to learn and demonstrated it in her interview and GitHub, and her specialty (VUEjs) is what we were looking for.
Since being hired she’s more than doubled her salary since we’ve had to match other offers to keep her.
With realistic expectations this shyt can be done.
No degree, first job Jr Developer at a small to medium sized company or start up in the Midwest. With a Midwest jr developer salary? Much more likely.
Prove yourself at that no name company. Move on to your next challenge. And in the time it would have taken you to get that degree you won’t be at $500k but you’ll be in the 6 digits.
I’m at a California company. We just hired a no degree,no bootcamp, first job, self taught Jr Developer a few years ago. Just off of the strength of her GitHub projects and programming challenge. What also helped was her market rate was cheap and gave us money back in our budget, she was eager to learn and demonstrated it in her interview and GitHub, and her specialty (VUEjs) is what we were looking for.
Since being hired she’s more than doubled her salary since we’ve had to match other offers to keep her.
With realistic expectations this shyt can be done.
I was just at a Silicon Valley startup that’s currently in hyper growth (left this summer). More than half of the developers coming in the door had no CS degrees. And they all had 4 other offers we had to beat.
When things start to slow down again it might matter. But right now it doesn’t as much.
Ceiling? Sure. At a FAANG company maybe. But that money can be made elsewhere if you’re talented and passionate.
Voice of Reason
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Neo. The Only. The One.
THE ONE
Here comes the random coli breh that always shows up in each and every tech thread like
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I hear what yall saying but you don't want this life"
if yall can't see the game by now, I don't know what to tell you. There's folks out here trying to actively discourage other ppl from entering the field.
With that being said, I've communicated with breh in the video before. He's legit.