Breh drops of daughter to mother and is murdered by mothers new boyfriend in front of both of them

[Lootha VanDraws]

Why was @Another Man even part of the exchange process?

 

[Eternally Jaded]

There are enough attorneys on here, I don't degr


You're saying that we know that he had the propensity to murder someone because he murdered someone.

This is obvious now that it has happened, you're assuming she knew that her boyfriend would murder someone in front of a police station no less and maybe you're right, but it's an assumption based on incomplete information.

If the situation was a man brings a woman around his kids and she murders them, would you be so staunch in his defense?
She's got no priors or anything.

Or would you just admit he effed up and he's gonna have to live with that weight?

Stand on your square man

 

[Man On Fire]

One man was murdered because another man decided to murder him. What conditions did the mother create that makes her responsible in your mind?

 

[Matt504]

If the situation was a man brings a woman around his kids and she murders them, would you be so staunch in his defense?
She's got no priors or anything.

Or would you just admit he effed up and he's gonna have to live with that weight?

Stand on your square man

My position would be the same. It's easy to see a situation play out and say what we would have done differently. The people that are dealing with situations in real time do not have the benefit of hindsight.

I'm not defending the mother but I'm not surprised that many of you believe I am because I'm not blaming her for having someone she's dating accompany her to drop off her kid.

 

[KillerB88]

My position would be the same. It's easy to see a situation play out and say what we would have done differently. The people that are dealing with situations in real time do not have the benefit of hindsight.

I'm not defending the mother but I'm not surprised that many of you believe I am because I'm not blaming her for having someone she's dating accompany her to drop off her kid.

nikka. You're deliberately ignoring the multiple posts in this thread pointing out that the boyfriend's record includes a charge for attempted murder. He was an unsavory character through and through.

 

[Payday23]

Because the mom didn't shoot anyone.

This wasn't "her actions".

This isn't hard.

Did the mom not choose the new man and not allow him to come to the exchange with a loaded gun as well?

 

[BaldingSoHard]

Did the mom not choose the new man and not allow him to come to the exchange with a loaded gun as well?

Yep, she chose him.

Whether or not she knew he had a loaded gun or not would be me speculating, and I choose not to speculate.

 

[Matt504]

nikka. You're deliberately ignoring the multiple posts in this thread pointing out that the boyfriend's record includes a charge for attempted murder. He was an unsavory character through and through.

I'm not ignoring it at all, I've been here since page one. You and others are assuming he shared his criminal history with her and building a narrative around that assumption.

In my experience, people tend to avoid volunteering their criminal history unless it's necessary but maybe you guys have different experiences when it comes to that

 

[Payday23]

You have anything to substantiate any of that bullshyt, or are you also creating a fantasy scenario in your head?

It literally says he was charged with attempted murder in 1999. Dude was from the streets and mom should've left him there.

 

[Payday23]

Yep, she chose him.

Whether or not she knew he had a loaded gun or not would be me speculating, and I choose not to speculate.

I'm sure she knew given his history.

 

[BaldingSoHard]

I'm sure she knew given his history.

And yet, he was still the one who pulled the trigger.

 

[Payday23]

I'm not ignoring it at all, I've been here since page one. You and others are assuming he shared his criminal history with her and building a narrative around that assumption.

In my experience, people tend to avoid volunteering their criminal history unless it's necessary but maybe you guys have different experiences when it comes to that

So the mom never even bothered to do any history check?

 

[Payday23]

And yet, he was still the one who pulled the trigger.

He's not there if she doesn't let him be.

It's a case study in multiple bad choices by all involved that now has changed 4 lives forever

 

[BaldingSoHard]

He's not there if she doesn't let him be.

It's a case study in multiple bad choices by all involved that now has changed 4 lives forever

Other dude isn't dead if he doesn't pull the trigger.

 

[Payday23]

He wasn't a murderer until he murdered someone, again, hindsight is 20/20 so it's very easy to play QB after having seen the whole game play out.

He was charged with attempted murder in 1999. It's safe to say he was a scumbag from the word go.