Breaking: President of Colombia calls Trump and MAGA White Slavers

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We have the opposite problem.

As an actual computer engineer by training, i think we have over produced engineers severely. I was lucky enough that my particular specialty allowed me to dabble in software in addition to hardware, but there are way more engineers than available jobs in the hard engineering fields. Same with hard sciences.

Its not about a nation having absolute highest numbers of STEM people. Instead its relative to the demand for those positions. Im hearing horror stories from the proffesional networks im a part of such as my regional the Black Society of Black Engineers. I have personally had an alarming amount of engeers asking me how to get into software.



Aside from civil engineers who just eat off govt work, the job market is abysmal for mechanical, biomedical , electric, and chemical engineers. Like graduate and be jobless for 6 months levels of abysmal . Like they finally manage to get that job, but are paid 60 or 70 k for their effort despite being promised 80 or 90 during undergrad. Its why a lot of the silicon valley coders are running around with mechEng or chemEng Degrees instead of wirking in a factory like their degree entails. And those h1bs just make it worse.


China can mint those high numbers because they have far more societal infrastructure to support.
I'm an Engineer by trade as well (that's my day job).

I don't think our problem is producing too many Engineers.

Our problem is two fold:
1. We produce too little of them.
2. We don't have those Engineers working on huge problems.


You're right, China has both the infrastructure to produce said talent (comically low cost/barrier of entry into their Universities)
and the business problems to solve (at the state level and in "private" enterprise).

Their Engineers don't lack for work because they're out building things all of the time and putting the theory into practice.
Whereas in America, you can earn a degree but you're either competing for the very slim amount of jobs available in the
(much smaller, non-Tech) private sector, working in the defense industry or trying to get into Big Tech.

We need a fundamental shift in how our nation is governed in order to change this IMO.

I think I said this poorly but Defense/Aerospace is hurting for Engineers pretty badly but many people
don't want to build weapons + the starting salaries aren't the best like you mentioned.
 

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Imagine some TLR MAGA breh dying by getting shot at inside of a whorehouse in Colombia or Venezuela while being an active duty soldier :laff:

I don’t want to imagine it, I want to see it happen many times over :skip:

Would love nothing more than to see Zionist IDF scum and military MAGAts become bullet magnets throughout the planet.
 

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This is a multi-decade project.

China has the manufacturing capacity AND the talent (they produce ~1.5 million Engineers a year).
The only other country that gets us even remotely close is India producing roughly the same amount a year.

This is why Vivek was keeping it real about the H1B, we simply do not create enough Engineers and like
I've said multiple times on here our manufacturing base has been largely hollowed out, China and other
countries refuse to do this because it wreaks havoc on a nation.

The only reason we're still standing is because of Tech and our exploitation of other countries.

We're in a bad position that'll only get worse as countries divorce themselves from the dollar and our exploitative practices.


Again, ignore Trump and see the bigger picture.
We could easily produce more engineers but:

-parents are more focused on CRT and bathroom signs
-post secondary will put you into inescapable debt
-elected officials prioritize corporate gains (which they are invested in) over their constituents

we don't live in a country, we live in a corporation...and corporations die, despite the ridiculous notion that we've been peddled about them being too big to fail.

we could make school affordable, we could prioritize having world standard test requirements, emphasize americans going out and seeing what the world has to offer and bring the best back.

we only competed with and beat the russians on this shyt because we buckled up and prioritized accessible and/or free education.
 

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They don’t “have to”

This is the same American arrogance that thinks trump is “winning” anything.

There’s so much money and people around the world. Nobody actually “needs” america anymore. Hell America “needs” the rest of the world more than they need us.

lol like I was saying in my initial post. The average American is far too propagandized and fattened by the residual effects of global exploitation and its comforts to realize the world is passing us by. America was the top dog in the 20th century, and the immense hubris following the end of the Cold War has only accelerated what should’ve been a much slower decline.

It’s almost poetic, the barbaric cac humans on the fringes of the civilized world finally get their day in the sun and manage to have the dumb luck of advancing human civilization many times over because they had a savage consumption based tendency which needed innovation to continue exploitation and efficient organization to maintain the exploitation. Now a lot of the people they exploited studied up on the innovations and peeped game. The more this snow ape acts belligerent, the more the rest of the world will feel inclined to isolate America. We’ve put these cacs on a pedestal only reserved for actual gods because of all this success through dumb luck. But African and Asian civilizations have been around longer and contributed more overall than this brief moment in the sun for these brutish cacs from the far western end of the Eurasian land mass. White supremacy isn’t supreme, it’s just highly neurotic.

The sooner we get that and the sooner we begin to think and move more pragmatically as a people, not just Black people, but human beings as a whole, the quicker we’ll be able to rid ourselves of this predatory streak which keeps us locked in nothing more than a sophisticated form of savagery.

Ima put it like this, the amount of money spent on Halloween alone is enough to provide adequate education for all the children on earth. The priorities are absolutely ass backwards and we somehow think it makes sense because we are the exceptional Americans. That’s how empires crumble….
 
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Trump deported 200 Colombians. None were criminals, Colombian officials say.​


Among the deportees who arrived back home Tuesday in Colombia were two pregnant women and more than 20 children.

January 28, 2025 at 6:25 p.m. ESTYesterday at 6:25 p.m. EST

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Migrants deported from the United States are received by a Red Cross member at El Dorado International Airport in Bogotá, Colombia, on Tuesday. (Alejandro Martinez/AFP/Getty Images)

By Samantha Schmidt

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Maria Sacchetti

BOGOTÁ, Colombia — President Donald Trump threatened to punish Colombia with tariffs, a travel ban and other sanctions to compel it to accept deportation flights carrying “Illegal Criminals.” But Colombian officials said there were no criminals among the two planeloads of migrants the U.S. government sent over Tuesday.

Among the more than 200 deportees were two pregnant women and more than 20 children, Colombian officials said after the flights landed.

“They are not criminals,” Luis Gilberto Murillo, Colombia’s foreign minister, said in a video statement posted on X. “Being a migrant is not a crime.”

The social media standoff between Colombian President Gustavo Petro and Trump erupted over the weekend as the new U.S. administration attempted to launch the largest domestic deportation operation in American history. In the end, Trump dropped his trade threats after Colombia agreed to the flights.

After taking office, Trump said he would remove violent criminals quickly, and he has enlisted the military, the FBI and other agencies to aid his deportation effort.

“These are murderers. These are people that have been as bad as you get. As bad as anybody you’ve seen,” he told reporters Friday. “We’re taking them out first.”

Immigration officials have made thousands of arrests since Trump took office, including of immigrants convicted of sex offenses and other serious crimes. But officials have not said how many violent offenders have been removed from the country.

The Department of Homeland Security and its immigration and border agencies did not respond to questions about the criminal backgrounds of the deportees to Colombia.

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Deportees at the Bogotá airport. Two Colombian military planes carrying about 200 migrants deported from the United States landed there Tuesday. (Alejandro Martinez/AFP/Getty Images)

The department said Monday that it had removed 7,300 immigrants who were in the United States illegally in the past week.

Without offering any evidence, officials declared that they had “fulfilled President Trump’s promise to the American people to arrest and deport violent criminals illegally in the country.”

White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said at a briefing Tuesday that the administration considers “all” immigrants who are in the United States illegally to be criminals.

“They illegally broke our nation’s laws and, therefore, they are criminals as far as this administration goes,” she said, calling the declaration a “big culture shift in our nation.” Deportation is a civil, not criminal, proceeding.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement reported last year that people with criminal histories accounted for only 8 percent of the immigrants it was tracking for possible removal.

In the United States, people are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

In interviews with local media in Bogotá, some who were sent back said they had recently crossed the U.S.-Mexico border illegally and were quickly picked up and sent home.

Though recent border crossers have long been a priority for removal, including under the Biden administration, federal records show most border crossers do not have criminal records.

Trump officials have publicized immigration raids targeting criminals in “sanctuary cities” such as New York and Chicago that are home to large numbers of immigrants far from the southern border.

Local governments have been leery of cooperating with ICE because the agency may also arrest otherwise law-abiding undocumented immigrants who came to the United States to work.

The White House has been posting orange-framed mug shots of people arrested in cities such as Houston, Baltimore and Seattle, sometimes without names, making it difficult to independently verify their criminal records.

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Deportees leave the Bogotá airport on Tuesday. (Carlos Ortega/EPA-EFE/Shutterstock)

Before Trump took office, ICE officials said they had more than 660,000 people with criminal histories on their docket of 7.8 million immigrants facing possible deportation nationwide.

Many with criminal records cannot swiftly be deported because they are serving time in prison.

Fifty-nine percent of those with homicide convictions, for instance, were incarcerated in federal, state or local prisons as of September, according to DHS data obtained by The Washington Post.

Ninety percent of those with homicide convictions were added to ICE’s docket before 2021, meaning that Trump wasn’t able to deport them during his first term, the records show.

Although Colombia has accepted deportation flights from the United States for years, Petro denied entry to two U.S. military planes early Sunday and said any deportations should be carried out with “dignity and respect.”

On Sunday, Trump said Colombia had agreed to accept U.S. military deportation flights, but Petro ultimately dispatched the Colombian air force to pick up deportees on the southern U.S. border Tuesday and take them to Bogotá.

A flight from El Paso had 91 Colombians on board, while another from San Diego carried 110 deportees, according to the Colombian Foreign Ministry.

One of the men deported told a Colombian radio station that U.S. border agents shackled his wrists and legs after taking him into custody. He said he had crossed the border into the United States a week ago.

The children all arrived accompanied by adults, according to Colombia’s child welfare agency. Their ages ranged from 1 to 17.

Trump posted on social media Sunday that the flights, including military ones, would continue.

“We will not allow the Colombian Government to violate its legal obligations with regard to the acceptance and return of the Criminals they forced into the United States!” he wrote on Truth Social.

Petro and other Colombian officials celebrated the return of their citizens Tuesday and offered them resettlement assistance. Officials said the migrants were given medical care and food.

“They are Colombians, they are free and dignified and they are in their homeland where they are loved,” Petro wrote on X. “Migrants are not criminals, they are human beings who want to work and progress, to live life.”

Isaac Arnsdorf contributed to this report.
 

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So apparently they have been sending immigrants to Colombia for a long time, the Colombian President just didn’t like HOW the immigrants were being sent this time..

In military planes in chains.

Trump admin agreed to send them normally and he accepted.

Still a nothing burger but mainly just theatrics
 
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