Breaking: President Biden to address the nation tonight at 8pm

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Ukraine I get, I even get the AC's sitting on the coast to Iran at bay, but why are we sending money to Israel?
You do? I mean, I guess I do to but it is not for the reasons he stated. It's just the 2023 version of the proxy wars Russia and the U.S. have been fighting for decades. Politicians keep saying we have to support Ukraine because if Russia wins they will continue across eastern Europe.

That's bullsh!t imo.

So, if Russia takes over Ukraine, Poland is next? A NATO country? That translates to if Russia beats Ukraine, they will declare war on the USA next. An attack on any NATO country is an attack on all NATO countries. The same Russia that is struggling just to beat Ukraine is suddenly gonna start a war with the USA, Great Britain and others? That just doesn't make sense.
 

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You do? I mean, I guess I do to but it is not for the reasons he stated. It's just the 2023 version of the proxy wars Russia and the U.S. have been fighting for decades. Politicians keep saying we have to support Ukraine because if Russia wins they will continue across eastern Europe.

That's bullsh!t imo.

So, if Russia takes over Ukraine, Poland is next? A NATO country? That translates to if Russia beats Ukraine, they will declare war on the USA next. An attack on any NATO country is an attack on all NATO countries. The same Russia that is struggling just to beat Ukraine is suddenly gonna start a war with the USA, Great Britain and others? That just doesn't make sense.

Exactly, they didnt even want that smoke at the height of the Soviet Union militarily from 1948 to the 1970s. By the time the 80s came around the US was WAY ahead of the Soviets in all aspecto of military technology, doctrine and combat experience and they havent caught up since.

I do feel like they're gonna take over the rest of the former Soviet republics though, with the exception of the Baltics. Worst case scenario, they regroup in 10 years and by some miracle overrun the Baltics in a blitz with pure manpower and then threaten nuclear war to get us to stand down (we wont) but they're not getting as far as Poland, Czechia or Romania ever again barring the total disintegration of NATO as we know it.

Thats propaganda to get us to spend tax money on a boogeyman, Poland right now in 2023 might give Putin the Fade in a 1v1.

The Middle East going up in flames cause of an Israel/America vs Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthi, Syria, and Iran war is a thousand times more likely at this point. Israel is even moving troops and vehicles closer to the borders with Jordan and Egypt, we dont know how they might react to a massive Palestinian refugee crisis but they already said thats a red line for both countries.
 

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Can’t lie, I am sick of how much we spend abroad while the US crumbles. After this 2024 election, we need a hard reset. Maybe even new parties. Before the republicans, there were Whigs, Know-Nothings, and even the Bill Moose Party.

And no, we don’t need to fund any other countries wars. How are you paying for other countries to have fake democracies when ours is broken at its core? Let’s fix this one and then try to fix others?
 

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shyt is crazy.

These people are also hearing that speech knowing dude is giving the green light for their oppressors to continue bombing them.

Don't know how they "believe in a better life because of us". That sounds like tone deaf babble.

I really can't vote for and enable this. I'll take my vote somewhere else which is not to either candidate. I value my vote.
 
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I know it's politics but really what's the point of even having this kind of news conference , it's not like the american public has any say
They going to give the money regardless and since Dems are in power racist ass republicans going get some concessions, probably taking away shyt we actually need in this country, in order to sign off on it

MAYBE the only good thing about this new war is it's probably not going to take as long and cost as much as the Ukrainian one
 

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basically this country will always support Israel as it’s basically an extension of America in the Middle East. Israel could literally kill all 2 million in gaza and nothing will change and they’re actively doing just that. The everyday citizens of America can’t do a goddamn thing even if the majority of people want a ceasefire.
 

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a speech to calm the public about any concerns it has about the billions we continue to funnel into the ‘endless war,’ assuring them that it’s in their best interests to rally behind the cause and ignore the price of gas, food and lodging.

the livelihoods of ukranians, israelis and defense contractors are far more important than your own. democracy depends on you understanding this.
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