Spoiler those god damn links @IbucciMane! shyt is fukking up the last page
BREAKING NEWS: President Trump Plans To Announce Jerusalem As Israeli Capital (IT'S CONFIRMED)
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Sorry breh and will do.
loyola llothta
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I Hope this is some master chess move to wipe out Israel
LoStranger
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Perhaps not today but many scientific and mathematical innovations were coming out of the Muslim Middle East during the Islamic Golden Age. You're letting your hatred for Islam and Muslims try to paint these people as intellectually inferior which is false.
Islamic Golden Age - Wikipedia
Look I agree with many of your sentiments against Muslims but I'm not feeling this whole Indo Aryan supremacy thing you're indirectly preaching here...
GetInTheTruck
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Perhaps not today but many scientific and mathematical innovations were coming out of the Muslim Middle East during the Islamic Golden Age. You're letting your hatred for Islam and Muslims try to paint these people as intellectually inferior which is false.
Islamic Golden Age - Wikipedia
Look I agree with many of your sentiments against Muslims but I'm not feeling this whole Indo Aryan supremacy thing you're indirectly preaching here...
The Islamic golden age was largely due to Muslim contact with the more civilized and refined societies like the Greeks, Indians, and Persians. What has happened since then is a regression towards the roots of Islam which is steeped in tribal warfare and religious dogma. When people say Islam was a "progressive" ideology for its time, that only applies within the context of the Arab world of 7th century. It wasn't progressive compared to the aforementioned societies which had already made significant contributions in the fields of science, mathematics, literature, grammar, art, etc; hundreds upon hundreds of years before that.
I think you are too caught up in the word Aryan since it's a word that has been hijacked and ruined by white supremacists. When I say Aryan I only mean the shared cultural heritage of Persian and Indian societies, societies that have been negatively impacted by Islamic aggression throughout history.
Grano-Grano
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At least Muslims know and care about their hygeine unlike your cousins in Delhi and shyt, Apu 
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LoStranger
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Well you could make that argument for a lot of different societies. Ancient Greece had some influence by Phoenicians (their script) and even Ancient Egypt. Different societies interact with different peoples and share ideas and knowledge...
Bro, those Persian, Greek societies still came after the rise of Semitic empires with the exception of the Sumerians (which is still in Mesopotamia not Iran) and the Indus Valley of course (so you're right about India) but I don't think the Indus Valley was Indo-Aryan. It's like with Europe. European civilizations came after both Ancient Semitic and Ancient African empires but because today Europe is more "civilized" then Africa or the Middle East I'm suppose to turn around and believe Africans and Semites are inferior to Europeans?
Also all empires and peoples rise and fall. Semitic empires are some oldest and well developed in world history however today not so much. How can you use example of them being "inferior" because they're behind today? That's like saying Europeans are inferior because they fell into a dark age in the Middle Ages or Northern Europeans must be inferior because they didn't have any high culture/civilization until the Roman Conquest.
I know what the word Aryan means bro but you're basing achievement and "civilization" on genetic determinism which is something white supremacists do and I take issue with that despite myself having issues with Muslims and particularly with Arabs I'm not going to turn around and say all Semitic peoples are barbarians and have no high culture and aren't civilized like reportedly "superior" Persians and Indians.
Link the riot video breh.These muthafukkas rioting out in israel right now off what trump said...the fukking chaos this caused fam...
GetInTheTruck
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Nobody is denying cultural trade off here and there. But when it comes to those fields that we associate with high culture and advanced civilization, these simply did not exist among Muslims until they came into contact with other, more refined societies.
This isn't the case with civilizations like Egypt and Greece. I am aware of the trope that "Greece learned everything from Egypt" but it's not true. Not sure if you are hinting at that argument or not, I don't think you were, but yes, Greece and Egypt shared ideas and knowledge. But India, Greece, and Persia didn't have that type of correspondence with Islam. That relationship was of a different nature.
The Sumerians weren't semites. They were their own ethnic group altogether, that's why sometimes some scholars speculate that they may have been related to the IVC in some way. Other than warfare and conquest, there is nothing particularly admirable about the semitic empires. Barbarians are capable of kingdom building as well, it's meaningless as per the context of this discussion. Yes, this is my opinion, but when we speak of the "big 4" ancient civilizations - Egypt, Sumer, IVC, and China we aren't speaking about semites.
I know what the word Aryan means bro but you're basing achievement and "civilization" on genetic determinism which is something white supremacists do and I take issue with that despite myself having issues with Muslims and particularly with Arabs I'm not going to turn around and say all Semitic peoples are barbarians and have no high culture and aren't civilized like reportedly "superior" Persians and Indians.
I didn't say anything about genes or genetics. I don't believe some people are inherently superior to others. But I do believe that some cultures are superior to others.
LoStranger
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Well that all depends on what one considers "high culture" and advanced civilization I consider Akkadians and other Semitic empires to be advanced civilizations (for the time) they pretty much gave half the world their scripts. Now of course Persians and Greeks would have more shyt because their empires came at a later stage in human development. Just like Ancient Greece or Ancient Persia at it's height would obviously shyt on Ancient Egypt.
As for Islamic Arabs (a particular Semitic group) you might actually have a point I haven't been able to find any independent Islamic Empires before the Islamic Expansion of the 7th Century which is why I had to bring up other Semitic groups in the first place....
I'm aware I was alleging the Sumerians weren't a Semitic or Indo-European/Indo-Aryan people like IVC and Elamites I didn't make myself clear my bad.....
I totally disagree I think the Semitic empires at the time were advanced enough I mean the Phoenician contribution to Western civilization alone is well documented and admired among scholars
Five Important Phoenician Contributions to Western Civilization
The 7 Contributions of the Most Important Phoenicians
Also remember the Phoenicians come at a later date compared to earlier Semitic peoples like Akkadians so just like the Persians and Greeks it's expected they'd have more.
Alright fair enough but when you come out with statements like Semitic Barbarians and they were nothing compared to Aryans makes it sound like an indirect belief in genetic determinism. I mean it's not different then a white supremacist saying that about black people because we aren't at their level today.
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Cmon breh I think we all know why
