“They put themselves in the air, I just kick away the chair”
-JayZ
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-JayZ
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i'll wind this up by repeating what I said again.... Multiple people knew that Jay-Z was making moves to not just sell the company, but position himself to never have to see or speak to this man again. They knew long in advance. He planned meetings about this. So even the lackeys in the meetings, knew about it. When Dame came in to scream and ask what's going on, everyone in the room knew not to spill the secret.What did hov do that was revengeful? Get his paper work in order? That’s just preparing yourself for what’s going to happen.
Jay literally hired all the guys Dame fired to be his personal staff.
Jay didnt cut dame out the business, they parted ways equally with a buyout, he didn’t black ball dame either, literally all the artist who has commercials success went with jay over dame.
Dame relationship with music executives black balled him
Also jay offered dame a opportunity to buy hay out and keep everything outside of RD masters. Dame said no so they dissolved the company. Where was jay being revengeful and spiteful to dame.
Jay was retired when they first broke up, dame had cam and jimmy dissing him on everything and jay wasn’t even mentioning him.
What did that “fukked dame over”? dame had ruined himself and without artist that was so hot that forced you to fukk with him nobody wanted to do shyt with him.
I understand where you coming from, but I’m loss on that part where he forced Dame out bro. Like this didn’t just pop one day, and dame was forced out the company on some back door slimy shyt and didn’t get proper compensation for his work.i'll wind this up by repeating what I said again.... Multiple people knew that Jay-Z was making moves to not just sell the company, but position himself to never have to see or speak to this man again. They knew long in advance. He planned meetings about this. So even the lackeys in the meetings, knew about it. When Dame came in to scream and ask what's going on, everyone in the room knew not to spill the secret.
That does not equal... "Hey man, I don't want to be in business with you anymore, so I'm out.... or...... you're out"
No that's calculated planning, with others, to make sure you have no clue whatsoever, of the way I'm bout to force you out. Then beyond that, I've also let others know, that when it's said and done, you won't be considered on a speaking level either.
All I'm fukking saying is there's a difference. You are giving great points to why it's justifiable. But people end business relationships DAILY. They don't always take back channeling and cutting someone off for life. It's obviously personal BEFORE the split. Only made worse by Dame's actions after the split. But if you was plotted against, would you not feel anger yourself? Hopefully he's finally getting past it.
true indeed. dame is pushing 50 years old and his health isnt the greatest. it can be sobering to see that.but if you stuck in a dark room with some pasty interns and a canon 7d while all your old homies is all enjoying life at a brunch in LA
it might not even be about the brunch, it might just be about seeing people you came up with in the biz, still working together, being happy and enjoying life
when you get older you reflect on things different
I understand where you coming from, but I’m loss on that part where he forced Dame out bro. Like this didn’t just pop one day, and dame was forced out the company on some back door slimy shyt and didn’t get proper compensation for his work.
Jay clearly offered dame and Biggs the option to buy him out of all the business and only keep RD masters. Dame said no, so at that point they were forced to sell, cause if jay just sells his share to def Jam then def jam owns a majority share at that point.
And again dame wasn’t blindsided fam, jay wasn’t even hanging around them passed 02 by all the accounts, they wasn’t even really talking no more, the artist already said jay wouldn’t even be at the label
shyt do you remember when jay had a team at Rucker park and all that shyt in 03? Jay was at that park every week for tournaments, you think if him and dame was on good terms or jay was faking like they was on good terms Dame wouldn’t have used that as a opportunity to be all in the videos?
a tournament that’s held in Rucker park which is in Harlem, that jay had a team in and would play tournaments weekly, was bringing bron and telfair out there and legit nobody outside jay inner circle would be there.
They was all but done fam. Dame wasnt blindsided, they had talks of how they were gonna go about selling and moving forwards.
shyt do you remember during the beans trial right after they split Dame would be dissing jay on every camera he could get in front of, using beans trial as a way to diss jay if he didn’t show up to every date, then cam and Jim would be dissing jay with dame adlibing over the shyt. Do you remember him releasing “Harlem American gangster” soon as jay released American gsngster, and dame saying jay celebrating snitches? And wants to be from Harlem all over the tape?
Where in all that mix would they have time to be cool are even speak again, jay and Biggs never fell out, or disrespected each other ever, and they work together today. Dame made it up ugly fallout when it didn’t need to be.
I’m just loss on the part he plotted against or forced dame out, that’s all. Cause that’s not how it went bro.
And again it’s been reports that jay has helped Dame pay his taxes since then to stop him from going to jail, jay and dame was backstage at one of jay concert a couple years back and seem excited to see each other, right after that was over Dame went back to dissing jaycalling him snitches and all kinda shyt when the man never even speaks on him
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I hope they can be friends in the future tho
true indeed. dame is pushing 50 years old and his health isnt the greatest. it can be sobering to see that.
before the social media era you could fall out with your old running mates and move on and move away. you could cut someone off and straight up never see them again...its outta sight outta mind and in the past.
nowadays, shyt is one click away
dame not only saw this with his own eyes, but people hit his texts, dm, nikkas are retweeting, reposting, doing blogs and podcasts, making memes, nikkas livestreaming...he couldnt escape it.
but seeing people who you thought were rivals/enemies breaking bread with your former partners....breh shyt finally broke his spirit.
even if i was the one who cut nikkas off, it would be hard to see my old homies doing it up without me and NOT get a little nostalgic
this social media shyt is toxic
i gotta quote beans on this shyt "GOT DAMN THAT GOTTA HURT"![]()
People make up narratives that fit what they want to believe, the only reason that general staff meeting always is mentioned is because it was caught on tape. It was a small normal general staff meeting about promotion and everyone in it got an email, Dame said nikkas in Harlem don't read emails. Nothing less or more, not even the big bosses were there. Even other Roc-a-fella staff that were Dames people got the email.i'll wind this up by repeating what I said again.... Multiple people knew that Jay-Z was making moves to not just sell the company, but position himself to never have to see or speak to this man again. They knew long in advance. He planned meetings about this. So even the lackeys in the meetings, knew about it. When Dame came in to scream and ask what's going on, everyone in the room knew not to spill the secret.
That does not equal... "Hey man, I don't want to be in business with you anymore, so I'm out.... or...... you're out"
No that's calculated planning, with others, to make sure you have no clue whatsoever, of the way I'm bout to force you out. Then beyond that, I've also let others know, that when it's said and done, you won't be considered on a speaking level either.
All I'm fukking saying is there's a difference. You are giving great points to why it's justifiable. But people end business relationships DAILY. They don't always take back channeling and cutting someone off for life. It's obviously personal BEFORE the split. Only made worse by Dame's actions after the split. But if you was plotted against, would you not feel anger yourself? Hopefully he's finally getting past it.
People make up narratives that fit what they want to believe, the only reason that general staff meeting always is mentioned is because it was caught on tape. It was a small normal general staff meeting about promotion and everyone in it got an email, Dame said nikkas in Harlem don't read emails. Nothing less or more, not even the big bosses were there. Even other Roc-a-fella staff that were Dames people got the email.
But somehow, due to it being caught on tape, It's some illuminati meeting where they were gonna dump Dame![]()
everybody is rebellious when they're 18 to 25...
...you eventually grow up and realize the world aint out to get you.
dame did lines after that brunch
footage and pics broke.
that nikka was high as fukk
during that interview.
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I almost crashed reading that shyt thecoli one step away from retirementyeah I don't know the details
but if you stuck in a dark room with some pasty interns and a canon 7d while all your old homies is all enjoying life at a brunch in LA
it might not even be about the brunch, it might just be about seeing people you came up with in the biz, still working together, being happy and enjoying life
when you get older you reflect on things different
being the solo underdog and abrasive ass gets tiring, especially if you aint gotta be that
maybe dame realizing he misses his brodies, plus, he aint reaching any new heights on his own and no one can do anything on their own, esp in that business
also, are nikkas really in here arguing about cazals, kangols and 80s clothing?
take that shyt somewhere else