Boxers of The Coli, yall head movement eff'n with his or nah?

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I still do reflex, heavy, and speed bag training. I would have popped him at some point. Only thing I don't do anymore is spar becuz well... I have no one to spar with recreational. :pachaha:

Good shyt from him tho.
 

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They looked like noobs, yes. But as another poster mentioned, they weren't completely clumsy and cumbersome.
Many were throwing fast, 'direct' shots(as direct as you'd expect from untrained ppl), and some even mixed them up.
Still amateurs, yes, but definitely no walk in the park for the person dodging these shots.
And he actually got tagged a few times, as a matter of fact, if you watch closely.

But nevertheless, do you think you would've gotten tagged once or twice if you were out there? :mjpls:

Yeah but they wouldn't have been clean shots.
 

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That shyt was comical but its not even remotely fair to compare hands of anyone who's spent time in a boxing gym to some guys off the street. Still :mjlol:

True indeed.

But I think that that's exactly what he wanted for this demonstration.
He's trying to show how head movement can aid in winning a street fight, not a fight against a trained fighter.
So to use everyday people as his subjects was actually probably the best way to demonstrate it. Everyday people are usually who we find ourselves embroiled in 'street fights' with, more often than not. So it's quite fitting to use them and their 'style' of punching to demonstrate the usefulness of a little head movement.
 

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I remember when this was on worldstar a few years ago. Dude was pretty good for just two years training.

I made a little mistake with my wording in my initial post. I don't actually know how long he's been boxing.

This the thing though.
- Dude was in there with pretty non athletic guys so it's easier to read punches when you're a notch or two quicker than the guy throwing them.

But when you think about it, it is generally non-athletic or untrained people that one finds themselves in a "street fight" with so I think that's why he chose to hit the streets and gather a bunch of strangers to prove his point. It would hold far less contextual relevance to exhibit a demonstration on "the advantage of head movement in a street fight" if he had done this in his own gym with his fellow trained fighters as the proverbial "street" fighters. Lol

-Everybody was head hunting. If they would have mixed up the shots to the body he would have prolly gotten caught. (short uppercuts and hooks)

I kind of think back to the premise of his demo, again. He wanted to show the advantages of head movement in a street fight.
A street fight generally consists of untrained "street" people.. average joes.. people who only instinctively know how to do just what you said, head hunt.
The average person, especially when under the pressures of physical combat, doesn't throw body shots or uppercuts, etc., and I think that it actually kept things more realistic for him to not use trained fighters to demonstrate the way head movement can nullify the unpredictable and uncoordinated nature of 'everyday people'.


-Most times if you're boxing you're going to block and parry a lot of those punches or ride them off the shoulder. I wouldn't suggest for someone to only defend exclusively with head movement. Good defense incorporates everything. (blocks, parries, rolling, head movement)

I can't wait to start boxing training. Nothing too serious, hard recreational type thing..and I will definitely carry this with me ^^^.
 
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Never would've got hit breh:lolbron:

The majority of his movement was slip three times then roll, he's in a pattern and the dudes fell for it until they found his rhythm. At that point didn't matter if all their weight was on their front leg or if they were walking with punches they found his rhythm.

That sounds, sound, to me.. to have an established set of evasive movements as you have described he had..
You say they caught his rhythm, I say he just a little tired after a while. :manny:
Regardless, what is the drawback to what he was doing?
Is it because it becomes predictable? It seems that in an actual boxing match- which allows him to be on offense as well that, predictable or not, it is a pretty solid skill set?
Or would he be eventually begging to get rocked if he actually boxed like that?
 

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There's always an advantage in moving your head in a fight. shyt, you got world class boxers that haven't gotten that memo yet, but they make up for it with other attributes.

Dudes demonstration was good, but it all depends on each person's demographic or what type of people you are most likely to run into when it comes to street fights.

The guy that was demonstrating will most likely run into dudes that ain't all that athletic or explosive just like the ones in the video. If you in the hood or be at parks in urban areas, you might run into nikkas that are athletic or explosive as hell even though they lack the proper technique. That's why I always feel that you should be prepared for the best type of street fighter out there when shyt hits the fan.

A good feint an a stiff jab is probably just as effective as doing all of that head movement. Good defense usually comes down to timing and habits.
 
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