Boiler Room: The Official Stock Market Discussion

[Domingo Halliburton]

Anyone mess with binary options? I hear its pretty sketchy...

I've never really messed with it and I don't know a lot about them. Why wouldn't you just straddle every position?

 

[Ohene]

i don't care how much lower Oil goes. At this point the downside for the long term isn't high enough for me not to invest.

will probably avoid the highly leveraged jaws except maybe PWE...but Husky Energy is getting copped asap

$45 a barrel and I'm in with my first purchase of the year

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

i don't care how much lower Oil goes. At this point the downside for the long term isn't high enough for me not to invest.

will probably avoid the highly leveraged jaws except maybe PWE...but Husky Energy is getting copped asap

$45 a barrel and I'm in with my first purchase of the year

The downside isn't within whether the price of oil continues to fall lower at this point. Its on how long it stays this low and who can survive into the next year. If you get one wrong and get wiped out, its going to bring your portfolio down with it. A lot of risk if you're looking at individual names. You're better off diversifying that away with an ETF if you feel the industry is undervalued right now.

 

[无名的]

The downside isn't within whether the price of oil continues to fall lower at this point. Its on how long it stays this low and who can survive into the next year. If you get one wrong and get wiped out, its going to bring your portfolio down with it. A lot of risk if you're looking at individual names. You're better off diversifying that away with an ETF if you feel the industry is undervalued right now.

True... I would just do XLE or maybe USO

Or look for an individual stock that has a good hedge program the next few years out. Buy LEAPS if possible. Or next 6 months or so I'd straddle one of the shale plays because it'll either get a lot worse or a lot better

 

[Ohene]

True... I would just do XLE or maybe USO

Or look for an individual stock that has a good hedge program the next few years out. Buy LEAPS if possible. Or next 6 months or so I'd straddle one of the shale plays because it'll either get a lot worse or a lot better

The downside isn't within whether the price of oil continues to fall lower at this point. Its on how long it stays this low and who can survive into the next year. If you get one wrong and get wiped out, its going to bring your portfolio down with it. A lot of risk if you're looking at individual names. You're better off diversifying that away with an ETF if you feel the industry is undervalued right now.

i agree which is why i said i'm avoiding the leveraged companies. no options either...strictly equities. Husky Energy aint going anywhere regardless.

One reason PWE and COS intrigues me is the low debt-equity, decent cash flow and recent dividend cut...im gonna have to seriously research and gauge if they can stay afloat because if it does and it the share price rices and eventually the dividend increases accordingly...at these levels i'd be eating...feasting in the distant future.

no love for XOP ETF y'all?

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

True... I would just do XLE or maybe USO

Or look for an individual stock that has a good hedge program the next few years out. Buy LEAPS if possible. Or next 6 months or so I'd straddle one of the shale plays because it'll either get a lot worse or a lot better

Or XOP if you want more small and midcap exposure.

I read yesterday that a lot of these producers that had hedges in places at the $80-$90 level are cashing them in and rehedging at lower prices and for longer. Itll hurt their revenue in the short term but theyll be able to stick around longer if prices stay low. Well have to wait until earnings to see who is doing this exactly though.

Regardless, some of these producers will have to fail this year for the situation to stabilize.

 

[Ohene]

with the S&P at these levels i don't know if i wanna invest in the USA at all to be frank..even the energy sector. it would take a realization similar to what i had with TSLA and LYV in 2013 for me to put any large amounts of $ in. too turbulent and high for my liking

 

[aliG]

What's the upside? They're gearing up for QE and if it doesn't happen, it'll likely be a result of Greeces exit. Either way, not a good situation.

Thank you man. I appreciate the knowledge. Good looking out.

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

Thank you man. I appreciate the knowledge. Good looking out.

Basically look at the central banks. The Europeans (or at least everyone think they will soon) and Japanese are doing monetary stimulus and the US just wrapped theirs up. Meaning the Europeans and Japanese are printing money to buy assets in hopes of stimulating the economy. Now with this money printing they are increasing the supply of euros or yen. Natural laws of supply and demand will set in pushing their currency down with this increased supply.

This is why you have seen the USD appreciate so much recently. Because the "money printing" has ended and we're not increasing the money supply anymore. That and other factors like oil prices are affecting other currencies.

If you look at a dollar gauge like the DXY I think it can hit 100.

 

[aliG]

Basically look at the central banks. The Europeans (or at least everyone think they will soon) and Japanese are doing monetary stimulus and the US just wrapped theirs up. Meaning the Europeans and Japanese are printing money to buy assets in hopes of stimulating the economy. Now with this money printing they are increasing the supply of euros or yen. Natural laws of supply and demand will set in pushing their currency down with this increased supply.

This is why you have seen the USD appreciate so much recently. Because the "money printing" has ended and we're not increasing the money supply anymore. That and other factors like oil prices are affecting other currencies.

If you look at a dollar gauge like the DXY I think it can hit 100.

Awesome post. I knew that Abe has been doing monetary stimulus but I had no idea that the Europeans were contemplating doing the same. (if they havent already done so)

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

Awesome post. I knew that Abe has been doing monetary stimulus but I had no idea that the Europeans were contemplating doing the same. (if they havent already done so)

Its not all about supply and demand if you think about it if they have to do stimulus in the first place the underlying economies are probably not doing too well either.

 

[Ohene]

My prediction for CBS in the next 6 months.

Currently, in an Ascending Triangle pattern that is very very short term it will gravitate to $56 a share in time for next earnings release. The market will go down into the new year so itll stay around $52 but from Jan to Feb it will go up to $56. If the news is great...it will shoot higher and break the long term downward trend that it is in and probably head up into the high 50s and head back down. If it goes past theres no ceiling.

I think the results will be okay at whats expected or worse however. If this is the case...look for it to continue its downward trend and head from $56 down to $44 over the course of 2015. A zealous prediction it is ...but I've been following this stock for a long time and how it moves. I think that 44 is the bottom.

the 52 week high and HEAD = $68.
The neckline was $56

the head minus neckline = $12

12 dollars below the neckline is $44. If you look at the picture...i didnt put in numbers but it looks like the lower end of that channel...the next support level of the pattern will be around $44 dollars as well.

All of this shyt is meaningless...but nonetheless

I've been calling for this shyt to hit $44 for months now. It was close when it hit 48 but now i know why it didnt go any lower...

I was right with LVS hitting $55 depsite all the bounces it did to the mid 60s. I was right about VRX heading down...and then even back up. Knew that Dean Foods was undervalued and even WFM. I have been right about the SPY quite a bit lately. Dont know if I posted it here but I said it'd hit 208-210 to finish the year and when it did I told my homie itll go down to 201-200 before Jan. 1. Let's see if I can call this one too . I'm ready to head back in the game for 2015 regardless

looks to be materializing for now

 

[Ohene]

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Apr-08-14 Initiated Stifel Buy $24
Apr-08-14 Initiated Canaccord Genuity Buy $25

taking a risky flyer in this one soon Not too much though...a modest $500

 

[Ohene]

back into the equities game feels good. First purchase: Cenovus Energy

in other news: http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wire...untain-dr-pepper-snapple-strike-deal-28053918

Keurig Green Mountain struck a deal with Dr. Pepper Snapple to make single-serve capsules for use in Keurig's soon-to-be released cold beverage system.

The companies did not disclose terms of the agreement Wednesday or specify which particular brands will be included. The soda maker, based in Plano, Texas, sells Sunkist, Snapple, Dr. Pepper, Hawaiian Punch and other brands.

The multi-year deal will make Keurig Green Mountain Inc. the exclusive producer in the U.S. andCanada for the drinks that use fountain syrup in the new Keurig Cold platform.

Keurig Cold, which is expected to launch in the fall, lets users to make cold carbonated drinks, sports drinks, teas, juice drinks and enhanced waters at home.

Shares of Keurig Green Mountain, which is based in Waterbury, Vermont, rose more than 3 percent to $131.22 before the opening bell.

Dr. Pepper Snapple Group Inc., like other soda makers, has been trying to maintain sales as American tastes and diets shift.

U.S. sales volume of carbonated soft drinks fell 3 percent in 2013, according to a report released last year by Beverage Digest, an industry tracker. That was a steeper drop than the 1.2 percent decline in 2012 and brought total soda volume to the lowest level since 1995.

"Our team is committed to building and enhancing our leading brands, and this agreement presents an opportunity to reach consumers in new occasions," said Jim Trebilcock, a marketing executive with Dr. Pepper Snapple.

just the other day i was walking home from the gym saying how Sodastream should try partnering up with firms like Pepsi or Monster to create drinks the same way Kcups work, Days later this happens. Good look for GMCR

 

[无名的]

Just had lunch with a guy from Morgan Stanley who is now trying to get me a gig there