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Really I only put like $3.4K into Apple but it's almost $10.5K now. I had positions in my portfolio that were up 50% and it's like $300 in gains or some shyt like Carrier. I just had to drop all those because it's better to consolidate into fewer investments and have larger gains to grow the portfolio since it's so small.

:mjlol: Proud to see that with experience, yaw have grown to understand this concept.
 

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Man y’all following these lame on YouTube with questionable financial history.

follow Mark Monroe. Brother got me up 29% on my contracts and it don’t expire for for another 18 months. I’m looking for 300-500% ROI:shaq:
 

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Lol and I told ppl months ago not to get behind Tilman Fertita business ventures. New York Post wrote a good article about dude that confirmed what I thought. Now maybe he just has bad timing but dude is losing out here

Houston Rockets owner Tilman Fertitta’s plans to take his Golden Nugget restaurant and casino business public appears to be getting the cold shoulder on Wall Street, The Post has learned.

The 63-year-old billionaire casino mogul told CNBC last month that he’s looking to list a minority stake in Golden Nugget on a public stock exchange. But Wall Streeters kicking the tires say the debut is no slam dunk due to the company’s staggering $4 billion in debt and its sagging sales.

Fertitta didn’t return calls for comment, but sources say his IPO dreams follow failed efforts to raise funds privately last year.

Before the pandemic hit, Fertitta had been discreetly shopping a stake of up to 49 percent in the Golden Nugget franchise, which boasts five casinos as well as 600 casual dining restaurants, including the Landry’s Seafood, Bubba Gump Shrimp, Morton’s The Steakhouse, McCormick & Schmick’s and the Del Frisco’s steakhouse chains, two sources with knowledge of the situation told The Post.

There was some interest in the casino business but not the restaurants because Fertitta had been seeking a multiple of more than 10 times earnings, and restaurants even prior to the pandemic were not viewed as a growth business, sources said.

Prospects for the eateries only worsened once the pandemic hit, leading Fertitta to seek a minority investor in the casino assets alone. That effort also came up short, sources said.

The problem, sources explained, is that there appears to be little value in Golden Nugget beyond the debt, which stands at about $4 billion — much of it taken in 2017 to finance a $1.4 billion dividend to Fertitta so he could buy the Rockets for $2.2 billion.

Golden Nugget currently generates about $400 million in Ebitda — or earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization, a key financial metric. That gives it a 10-to-1 debt-to-earnings ratio, a Golden Nugget lender told The Post.

Even if earnings in the next 12 months were to improve to $500 million as the pandemic wanes, the business would only be worth nine times its Ebtida, giving it little value for stockholders, the lender said.

There are other concerns, like Fertitta’s publicly traded food delivery business, Waitr Holdings, which has proved a dud since his blank-check company bought it in 2018 for $308 million. At the time, the deal sent the stock up to more than $12 a share.

But Waitr, which closed on New Year’s Eve at just $2.78 a share, has been dragged down since by disappointing earnings as it’s lost out to larger competitors like DoorDash and Postmates.

“I don’t think the public markets will accommodate him,” a banking source who has worked on Fertitta fundraising efforts said. “I think Waitr hurt him.”
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Houston Rockets owner Tilman Fertitta’s plans to take his Golden Nugget restaurant and casino business public appears to be getting the cold shoulder on Wall Street, The Post has learned.

The 63-year-old billionaire casino mogul told CNBC last month that he’s looking to list a minority stake in Golden Nugget on a public stock exchange. But Wall Streeters kicking the tires say the debut is no slam dunk due to the company’s staggering $4 billion in debt and its sagging sales.

Fertitta didn’t return calls for comment, but sources say his IPO dreams follow failed efforts to raise funds privately last year.

Before the pandemic hit, Fertitta had been discreetly shopping a stake of up to 49 percent in the Golden Nugget franchise, which boasts five casinos as well as 600 casual dining restaurants, including the Landry’s Seafood, Bubba Gump Shrimp, Morton’s The Steakhouse, McCormick & Schmick’s and the Del Frisco’s steakhouse chains, two sources with knowledge of the situation told The Post.

There was some interest in the casino business but not the restaurants because Fertitta had been seeking a multiple of more than 10 times earnings, and restaurants even prior to the pandemic were not viewed as a growth business, sources said.

Prospects for the eateries only worsened once the pandemic hit, leading Fertitta to seek a minority investor in the casino assets alone. That effort also came up short, sources said.

The problem, sources explained, is that there appears to be little value in Golden Nugget beyond the debt, which stands at about $4 billion — much of it taken in 2017 to finance a $1.4 billion dividend to Fertitta so he could buy the Rockets for $2.2 billion.

Golden Nugget currently generates about $400 million in Ebitda — or earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization, a key financial metric. That gives it a 10-to-1 debt-to-earnings ratio, a Golden Nugget lender told The Post.

Even if earnings in the next 12 months were to improve to $500 million as the pandemic wanes, the business would only be worth nine times its Ebtida, giving it little value for stockholders, the lender said.

There are other concerns, like Fertitta’s publicly traded food delivery business, Waitr Holdings, which has proved a dud since his blank-check company bought it in 2018 for $308 million. At the time, the deal sent the stock up to more than $12 a share.

But Waitr, which closed on New Year’s Eve at just $2.78 a share, has been dragged down since by disappointing earnings as it’s lost out to larger competitors like DoorDash and Postmates.

“I don’t think the public markets will accommodate him,” a banking source who has worked on Fertitta fundraising efforts said. “I think Waitr hurt him.”
 
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This is me. Don't make a ton, but have no debt. I got all this money through injury settlements and then annuity.

I think I wanna do an annuity for my mom. These savings accounts are ass right now, even with online banks. She has a decent amount sitting in savings account I setup for her after my father passed, but I don't need her running through it after she stops working later this year.
 
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