Boiler Room: The Official Stock Market Discussion

Starski

Superstar
Joined
Feb 12, 2015
Messages
6,163
Reputation
1,300
Daps
18,173
Someone bought $10k (edit or 10k volume) of 160 Spy puts for 1/15/2021? :dwillhuh:

yeah just opened up for $.04

10k volume.

That civil war hedge

Super lower delta so if you even see a slight increase (towards the negative) in gamma

full
 

Scholar

Superstar
Joined
Dec 11, 2015
Messages
8,939
Reputation
795
Daps
24,343
yeah just opened up for $.04

10k volume.

That civil war hedge

Super lower delta so if you even see a slight increase (towards the negative) in gamma

full
If SPY hits 162 by 1/13 that person makes a 6375% return and makes $637,500

Once in a generation play
 

Starski

Superstar
Joined
Feb 12, 2015
Messages
6,163
Reputation
1,300
Daps
18,173
If SPY hits 162 by 1/13 that person makes a 6375% return and makes $637,500

Once in a generation play

Yeah, in this case the bears starting capital is 40k, so his return would be 2.59M


But remember, forecasting deep deep otm options is hard. 99.9% of it is due to how exactly will the "crash" happens. If the S&P takes a 30% haircut( 252 ending price) a week before the options expire, it's still relatively worthless. If that same crash happens the first week of December, my bear friend is caking. During the crash down I remember looking at puts that were in the 160-190 range with ~few weeks till expiry trading near a dollar.

Also, just like how people buy stocks that are above their "intrinsic" value all the time due to momentum the same applies to options.
 
Last edited:

FabTrey

Superstar
Joined
Apr 2, 2017
Messages
13,022
Reputation
-1,689
Daps
28,409
I was reading that Moderna is basically using the same method as Pfizer so that's more of a sample size now. I don't trust them nearly as much but I do think it spells good news overall for the vaccine. Most people believe now that we will have it by Spring.

i'm pretty much done with the vaccine stocks. it's a damn crab shoot at this point. i ate enough, so i ain't complainin, but there's some serious politics/corruption going on in this space.
 

winb83

52 Years Young
Supporter
Joined
May 28, 2012
Messages
45,847
Reputation
3,821
Daps
69,397
Reppin
Michigan
I'm finally positive on all my UTX positions.

Carrier I'm up 67%
Raytheon I'm up 6%
Otis I'm up 1.4%

I feel like I should dump Otis. This is the first time since the UTX split that I've been positive on them at all.
 
Top