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I agree with buddy with the glasses basically that this is a situation the likes we've never seen and what he is really saying is if we get past the virus, there's reason to assume things will return to normal and close to normal because people are only out of work because they were told to stay home.

Bald dude sounds depressed like his whole portfolio blew up in February and he's gonna take years to recover. He might be right on that. He keeps talking about reaching new highs.

My price points don't need to reach new highs for me to be happy. I think that's what a lot of us are debating here. I don't care how long it takes to reach new highs because I got back in at 18.5K :manny:
 

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AER, an airline leasing company I'm looking at jumped 14% today :francis:

Solid business, big upside. I gotta get off these damn sidelines :francis:
CapEx is too high it's causing negative free cash flow and has been doing so the past 4 years. I didn't look at their business but whatever they do the physical cost of maintaining their plant, property, and equipment is so expensive it turns their positive operating cash flow negative and has been doing so for a long time. Revenue is pretty much flat. Maybe a bit of a slight decline. Cash on-hand has been dwindling slowly from $2 billion in 2016 down to $1.1 billion in 2019. Plant property and equipment assets have increased though. They have a larger amount of long term debt at $29 billion. The debt was growing but now seems to be maintaining the same level.

Usually if you see a company with negative free cash flow you want to see the business growing. You want increased revenue to indicate growth there. Example: Uber has negative free cash flow but the revenue is consistently growing even if that growth slowed a bit last year.

It could be a short to medium play because the share price seems to be oversold but doesn't look like a good long term investment. Looking at their financials they seem to be treading water.
 

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xspa went from .05 to .40 in a couple weeks...a great long term play....they're doing CV tests at the airport & possibly other things...i plan on getting Rich as fuk during this lockdown.....
They came back down to .25, has me wondering if it's a pump and dump and missed the boat. I know they have the testing going on but I wonder how that will translate into their share price. Unless they come out with another press release and the shyt soars
 

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They came back down to .25, has me wondering if it's a pump and dump and missed the boat. I know they have the testing going on but I wonder how that will translate into their share price. Unless they come out with another press release and the shyt soars
Don''t invest in that. it was a pump and dump
 

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CapEx is too high it's causing negative free cash flow and has been doing so the past 4 years. I didn't look at their business but whatever they do the physical cost of maintaining their plant, property, and equipment is so expensive it turns their positive operating cash flow negative and has been doing so for a long time. Revenue is pretty much flat. Maybe a bit of a slight decline. Cash on-hand has been dwindling slowly from $2 billion in 2016 down to $1.1 billion in 2019. Plant property and equipment assets have increased though. They have a larger amount of long term debt at $29 billion. The debt was growing but now seems to be maintaining the same level.

Usually if you see a company with negative free cash flow you want to see the business growing. You want increased revenue to indicate growth there. Example: Uber has negative free cash flow but the revenue is consistently growing even if that growth slowed a bit last year.

It could be a short to medium play because the share price seems to be oversold but doesn't look like a good long term investment. Looking at their financials they seem to be treading water.
There's some risks for sure, but it's the exponential growth in the leasing of planes that's got me interested. And with airlines having been hit hard as of late, I'm betting on this trend to grow as more of them may not have the capital on hand for these purchases, or want to keep such expensive depreciating assets on their books.

And from what I've read, it's very difficult for airlines to break these lease agreements. And should they file bankruptcy (wiping out their shareholders in a restructure), they'll still need to retain their planes so they can return to operations.

That and they have about $8B in cash and available credit. If things return to norm in the near future, this will be a nice investment and one I'm most likely to roll the dice on :ehh:
 

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oil might jump Thursday depending on this meeting

The U.S. can't actually stop pumping oil due to anti trust reasons. The only way that meeting ends in a success is if Trump agrees to remove sanctions on Russia AND Saudi Arabia is okay with everyone but America cutting oil production. This is highly unlikely.
 

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Is this not a bulltrap everything up and im missing out :mjcry:
I been trying to tell people in here stop being greedy and if you looking at a company and the price is a good deal then buy it and don’t worry about if it falls further. In every market crash it’s gonna be people that get greedy and miss the whole damn thing waiting for a bottom they have no way of knowing was hit.

I’m not saying we 100% hit the bottom now but if you don’t know when that happens then what defines when you jump in? People waiting for a sign that doesn’t exist. Uber was like $14 and shyt and people talking about waiting for lower lows.
 
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