"Blacks create and move on. Whites document and then recycle."- Miles Davis

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Yep. You like the old Country music more, because you were listening to White people singing the Blues that they learned from Black people.

Btw, in 1962 Ray Charles crossed over from Blues into Country music to make an album called "Modern Sounds in Country and Western Music." That album became one of the highest selling Country albums of all time. In fact 54 years later it is still listed as the 4th best all time Country album ever. That should give you some idea about African American musicians who are from the Country and their connection to Country music; this is despite the fact that African Americans by and large haven't been all that interested in White people version of Country music.

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Modern Sounds in Country and Western Music - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
That's why Lionel Richie was able to make Stuck On You, and it sounded so effortless. I bet rednecks' heads exploded when they found out he made that shyt :pachaha:

 

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Statement predates hip-hop?

Mediocre whites document and recycle

Great whites document and do something else
 

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Every human group creates some form of culture. Many borrow from other cultures, syncretize, etc. White people generally have less original shyt in their culture because they've interacted with more different types of people and thanks to white supremacy and power relations due to colonialism and globalism can successfully interweave black and brown stuff into their existing culture and profit off it, not because they're inherently "cultureless".

Now whether you actually enjoy their culture is a whole other discussion. I'd assume most people on a hip-hop site aren't too fond of it :mjlol:. But white-created cultural products and white culture itself do exist. In fact, Anglo-American westernization is the dominant global culture in the world, and although it's not wholly white-created, white people are responsible for its propogation and reach.
 
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not true at all
It's definitely a factor. Generally the reason there's so much outside influence and adaptation of other cultures within white culture is their access to different societies experienced through the prism of exploitation and conquest. You take what you like out of the people you oppress and be entertained and profit off of it. Access to the world and its cultures allow you to incorporate more of them, its just common sense.

Pre-Colonialism (or maybe pre-Renaissance) there's really not much indication that white culture didn't develop on a more or less expected trajectory, at least for a peripheral region with a shytty climate. There's whole books written about this "Great Divergence" between Europe and the rest of the world in terms of material profit and technology, but essentially cultural proclivities for profit, war-making, and exploration due to a variety of environmental factors combined with some happenstance institutional constructs led Europe to be able to access and exploit the New World, India, Africa, and the East Indies in a way that just wouldn't happen anywhere else. However, obviously this domination of the rest of the world had nothing to do with some sort of inherent superiority of white people, or something inherently "superior" about their culture or values. It was just environmental happenstance. Which also is why white culture is the way it is: not because white people are inherently "cultureless", but because the opportunities afforded to them to coopt and exploit have been far greater than anyone else.
 

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It's definitely a factor. Generally the reason there's so much outside influence and adaptation of other cultures within white culture is their access to different societies

this isn't true, though. cultural exchange between Africa, Asia and Arabia was already happening.
 

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this isn't true, though. cultural exchange between Africa, Asia and Arabia was already happening.
It was, but it was not as same as the characteristically intensive cultural exchange and exploitation found within white imperialism and settler colonialism, and was not as wide reaching. No other continent colonized essentially the entire world for the express intent of taking what they wanted out of their subject populations, economic, cultural, or otherwise.
 

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It was, but it was not as same as the characteristically intensive cultural exchange and exploitation found within white imperialism and settler colonialism, and was not as wide reaching. No other continent colonized essentially the entire world for the express intent of taking what they wanted out of their subject populations, economic, cultural, or otherwise.

The only part of the world it did not reach was the Americas....it's a bit of a stretch, especially given that these trade networks existed millennia before colonialism.
 

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The only part of the world it did not reach was the Americas....it's a bit of a stretch, especially given that these trade networks existed millennia before colonialism.
Those trade networks constituted a fundamentally different form of exchange than colonialism did.
 

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Those trade networks constituted a fundamentally different form of exchange than colonialism did.

yeah, they weren't violent thus i don't geography even approaches the why.
 

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Quotes like this is so stupid. Basicaly puts each group into a category assuming their all the same

Some whites create and move on, and some blacks document and then recycle also. :stopitslime:


All black people aren't the same. And all white people aren't the same. It's common sense
 
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