Black women are collectively fed up with the stereotypes and their negative image portrayal in the industry…. Are we about to see a shift?

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

Nah, I can pinpoint where people were OBSESSED with being in the streets, doing dirt, and being a "real nikka" back in the 90s.

@Wear My Dawg's Hat can vouch for that.

The PE-to-NWA handoff illustrated the malignant, cultural paradigm shift that has been in place for over 35 years.

NWA/Ruthless then leads to Death Row.

Death Row content was basically the first harder Hip Hop to receive mainstream rotation on MTV and pop radio. PE, Tribe and X-Clan barely
received BET rotation play at the time.

Then Bad Boy became an East Coast reaction to the Death Row rise. And we've been stuck with variations of the same Real nikka/Bad-Boss Bytch
nucleus ever since.

Black Music used to move and innovate every five years or so, bringing forth new genres and perspectives. The cultural stagnancy of the past 35 years
is unprecedented for our people.

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

So it was the “real nikka trope” and not the Narco Economy created by the War on Drugs and the C!A through the system of white supremacy? Stop focusing entirely on the symptoms and look at the disease. friend.

If you are of a certain age from NYC, you clearly remember Black males largely under the age of 22 flocking to the theaters in 1983 to
treat Scarface like white girls are treating the Barbie movie today.

The imported Chinese karate flicks that were so dominant ("Five Deadly Venom" ) with NYC Black boys and young men were set-aside by
dreams of becoming Tony Montana. Scarface became a religious experience - it was "The World Is Yours/Get Rich Or Die Trying" gospel setting the stage
'for the next generations.

Drug-dealing became the oppositional way to make it in America for a whole set of young men who found becoming a teacher, sanitation man, housing authority cop, transit worker, messenger, transit worker, delivery driver, cab driver unfulfilling.

Black cultural focus pre-Scarface 1983 was in a whole different place.

Who is today's version of Shalamar?

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

Both are to blame.

CIA started it, but the real black sellouts that engaged in the destruction of the black community is to blame equally as well.

People make choices.

Even Essence Mag warned 23 years ago about treating Lil' Kim with reverence as if she were Aretha Franklin.

And now, here we are.

 

[HarlemHottie]

Threads should specify, Black FBA women. We treasure our non American African queens.

Negged, fakkit. Welcome back.

 

[O.Red]

The PE-to-NWA handoff illustrated the malignant, cultural paradigm shift that has been in place for over 35 years.

NWA/Ruthless then leads to Death Row.

Death Row content was basically the first harder Hip Hop to receive mainstream rotation on MTV and pop radio. PE, Tribe and X-Clan barely
received BET rotation play at the time.

Then Bad Boy became an East Coast reaction to the Death Row rise. And we've been stuck with variations of the same Real nikka/Bad-Boss Bytch
nucleus ever since.

Black Music used to move and innovate every five years or so, bringing forth new genres and perspectives. The cultural stagnancy of the past 35 years
is unprecedented for our people.

There was no PE-NWA hand off. They were out at the exact same time

The people made a choice

The way y'all romanticize the PE era like black folks were about to revolutionize en masse after It Takes A Nation is insane

 

[Rekkapryde]

nope.

this.

Birdbrains and attention whoring clout chasing >>>>>>>>>

 

[Rekkapryde]

There was no PE-NWA hand off. They were out at the exact same time

The people made a choice

The way y'all romanticize the PE era like black folks were about to revolutionize en masse after It Takes A Nation is insane

There was more positive than reality/gangsta rap then tho

 

[O.Red]

There was more positive than reality/gangsta rap then tho

Yea then people collectively turned to gangsta rap and said "This. We want more of THIS"

 

[Rekkapryde]

Yea then people collectively turned to gangsta rap and said "This. We want more of THIS"

and the cacs/joos behind the labels were more than happy to feed it.

they weren't coming home to the degeneracy and reality of the hoods. But lord they saw they could make a killing financially.

 

[O.Red]

and the cacs/joos behind the labels were more than happy to feed it.

they weren't coming home to the degeneracy and reality of the hoods. But lord they saw they could make a killing financially.

It is what it is. But you can't feed a vegetarian hot dogs

 

[Rekkapryde]

It is what it is. But you can't feed a vegetarian hot dogs

Gotta have some kind of balance tho at least

 

[Buddy]

only female rapper i ever liked enough to actually cop their album was Lauren Hill.

You should check out Rapsody

 

[feelosofer]

What we are seeing now is about 3 generations of disorder in the Black community. Speaking specifically to women these hyper thots are basically the female counterpart to the thug/dusty breh and this is the result of A) Not controlling your own image and B) Not having balance anymore when it comes to the culture/music.

There is a middle ground between wearing a habit or a hijab and looking like you give the gawk gawk for 40 bucks and a pack of newports.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

This is what happens when you have a “getting the bag culture.” This is what happens when “shame” is considered a remnant of patriarchal culture.

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

There was no PE-NWA hand off. They were out at the exact same time

The people made a choice

The way y'all romanticize the PE era like black folks were about to revolutionize en masse after It Takes A Nation is insane

PE debuts a year and a half before NWA. Back then that was a big difference.

PE's first album, "Yo Bum Rush The Show," releases in the beginning of 1987.

NWA's multi-artist COMPILATION, releases at the end of 1987. They weren't even a cohesive group yet!

PE's second studio album, "It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back," releases Spring 1988, goes Number One on the Billboard
Top Black Albums chart.

NWA's first, studio group album, Straight Outta Compton, releases at the end of the Summer 1988. It peaked at Number 9 on the Billboard Black Top album chart.

It should be noted that Dre and Yella during 87/88, are also having success with the World Class Wrecking Cru on
Black R&B radio with the single "Turn Off The Lights." The traction of that song precedes NWA's blowing up.

While KDAY radio in Los Angeles is playing PE's "Rebel Without A Pause," in NYC, the birthplace of Hip Hop, no NWA is playing
other than the affiliated R&B of "Turn Off The Lights."