Black people, we're not Africans! Here's two reasons...

[Black Haven]

That's cool

You do realize you're not me right?

For instance, both my great-grandparents are on the Dawes rolls full blooded Choctaw and Cherokee it is what it is.

Read my quote again and understand what it means.

Not anti anything just trying to get people to understand there's more to history than what was taught.

fine just as long as you don't claim your great grand parents as BLACK Americans then I have no problem with that

 

[Worthless Loser]

That thread had no business being closed. Poor moderation seems to be a continuing thing on here but oh well. Just roll with the punches and deal with it. Nothing is going to change. Just post in the topics you like.

 

[Mugenight]

fine just as long as you don't claim your great grand parents as BLACK Americans then I have no problem with that

Why would I do that? Black people don't exist neither do these people you call "Whites".

 

[Black Haven]

Why would I do that? Black people don't exist neither do these people you call "Whites".

I hear ya but, I'm just going to say one last thing..... MLK, Malcolm X, and Muhammad Ali were some of the dopest AFRICAN americans in history

 

[Dzali OG]

Did you not say the Black man is indigenous to all parts of the world?

If you're not saying AAs are native to North America then you believe African looking people populate the rest of the world out of Africa? Correct.

You do realize that is a "cac" theory? Black people settled the whole world. Duh.

What you folks keep missing is the Black phenotype exist in certain ecological zones.

Melanesians phenotypically resemble Africans because they live in a similar environment even though they were the 1st to leave Africa.

Where in North America is similar to any of Africa's ecological zones?

The parts of the world settled by Black folks that have environments that are not similar to Africa caused those people to change phenotypically...

And if you argue that North America and Africa are similar environments then why do AAs cluster with Africans genetically and Melanesians don't?

I contend that environment isn't the sole or primary contributor to the variances. The cause is actually mixing with eurasians and whatever hominids they encountered.

North America is not like Africa, hence the blacks in America indeed adapted differently. They also mixed with the nomadic mongloids.

 

[Dzali OG]

The Australian Aboriginals are one of the most ISOLATED people in the world even genetically. What the heck do you mean "Cac genes." Some of yall need to stop speaking on stuff yall don't understand. This is how things like this start.

I was lazy and said cac genes, I mean much different.

 

[Ronnie Macho]

Once again? Who are you talking to?

and Race? there is only one race or are you seriously borderline retarded?

Clearly, I wasted my time with you get lost.

Race is not even a scientific term...but I know what you mean...keep droppin' knowledge for the eyes watchin'...these "house nikkas"...just wanna argue like bytches...and divert attention away from the facts and the truth...

More than 100 years ago, American sociologist W.E.B. Du Bois was concerned that race was being used as a biological explanation for what he understood to be social and cultural differences between different populations of people. He spoke out against the idea of "white" and "black" as discrete groups, claiming that these distinctions ignored the scope of human diversity.

Science would favor Du Bois. Today, the mainstream belief among scientists is that race is a social construct without biological meaning. And yet, you might still open a study on genetics in a major scientific journal and find categories like "white" and "black" being used as biological variables.

In an article published today (Feb. 4) in the journal Science, four scholars say racial categories are weak proxies for genetic diversity and need to be phased out. [Unraveling the Human Genome: 6 Molecular Milestones]

They've called on the U.S. National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine to put together a panel of experts across the biological and social sciences to come up with ways for researchers to shift away from the racial concept in genetics research.

"It's a concept we think is too crude to provide useful information, it's a concept that has social meaning that interferes in the scientific understanding of human genetic diversity and it's a concept that we are not the first to call upon moving away from," said Michael Yudell, a professor of public health at Drexel University in Philadelphia.

Yudell said that modern genetics research is operating in a paradox, which is that race is understood to be a useful tool to elucidate human genetic diversity, but on the other hand, race is also understood to be a poorly defined marker of that diversity and an imprecise proxy for the relationship between ancestry and genetics.

"Essentially, I could not agree more with the authors," said Svante Pääbo, a biologist and director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Germany, who worked on the Neanderthal genome but was not involved with the new paper.

"What the study of complete genomes from different parts of the world has shown is that even between Africa and Europe, for example, there is not a single absolute genetic difference, meaning no single variant where all Africans have one variant and all Europeans another one, even when recent migration is disregarded," Pääbo told Live Science. "It is all a question of differences in how frequent different variants are on different continents and in different regions."

Race Is a Social Construct, Scientists Argue

Also Whites Have Only Been Here For 8,000 Years...and evolved from blacks...whites are missing 2 SLC genes which resulted in depigmentaion...i.e. ibino...white people...A Harvard Archaelogost and his team made the findings...a white one at that...

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/04/how-europeans-evolved-white-skin

 

[Losttribe]

Thread title got me

Lol

 

[Mugenight]

I hear ya but, I'm just going to say one last thing..... MLK, Malcolm X, and Muhammad Ali were some of the dopest AFRICAN americans in history

Whatever label you wanna give them they were great men.

I suggest you stop now.

 

[Dzali OG]

How are we one if we are all aboriginal to different lands?

Ok I don't mean aboriginal like we grew from the ground there. Of course we migrated there during various times.

A not so great comparison is, I have fam all over the country. They've been where they are for 30 plus years or more. They can claim to be from whatever state they're in.

Or better yet, say they've been there 90 years and kids and grandkids have been born. Those kids and grand kids van definitely lay claim to being native there.

Yet, we are still family. My brothers and nephews in NY may talk fly, and my sisters and nieces on the westcoast may talk game, bit they're still my family.

 

[Black Haven]

Whatever label you wanna give them they were great men.

I suggest you stop now.

I can't stop now because if I do it would dishonor not only their legacy but the legacy of the millions of African slaves transported here to America

 

[And you]

Barnetts a bytch, I’d spit in his face

 

[Poitier]

I contend that environment isn't the sole or primary contributor to the variances. The cause is actually mixing with eurasians and whatever hominids they encountered.

North America is not like Africa, hence the blacks in America indeed adapted differently. They also mixed with the nomadic mongloids.

Where do you think Eurasians and other hominids come from? You realize they come from Africa too

Eurasians is a broad term. Which Eurasians? White European looking ones or Black Asians like Andaman Islanders?

You don't believe in DNA so won't go there.

Do you believe in natural selection? Take any meds? Own any dogs or cats?

If the blacks in America adapted differently then why is our phenotype much closer to Africans in Africa than Andaman Islanders and other Melanesians are to Africa?

Surely we'd look different than Africans if we had "nomadic mongloid" and white folks and "other hominids" aka neanderthals prominently in our blood plus whatever changes the North America environment caused, no?

 

[Dzali OG]

This is what he meant.


He's going to have to prove people of African descent(which AAs descend from) are indignous to every part of the world.

Breh, it shouldn't take much thought, depending upon how long you think man has been on this planet? And do you subscribe to the cac ideology that blacks were too stupid or primitive to settle other lands?

 

[Poitier]

Ok I don't mean aboriginal like we grew from the ground there. Of course we migrated there during various times.

A not so great comparison is, I have fam all over the country. They've been where they are for 30 plus years or more. They can claim to be from whatever state they're in.

Or better yet, say they've been there 90 years and kids and grandkids have been born. Those kids and grand kids van definitely lay claim to being native there.

Yet, we are still family. My brothers and nephews in NY may talk fly, and my sisters and nieces on the westcoast may talk game, bit they're still my family.

But you realize that when you live in one place long enough that isn't like the place you use to live in that you change physically and genetically?

Why haven't AAs changed physically and genetically while all these other groups of people around the world have?