Black people were Hitler’s victims too – that must not be forgotten

[Yinny]

Fun fact: Prince Harry dressed up as hitler for a costume

raise your Reichs, we on our way

 

[mbewane]

Would y'all put a pillow over a 5 month old infant Hitler's head or just kidnap him and give him to someone who would raise him to be a decent human being?


Nature vs nurture

This rhetorical question has never and will never make any sense. Hitler didn't invent fascism, nor pangermanism, nor deep antisemitism, nor ultra-nationalism, nor anti-communism, nor the political/economical situation in Germany in the 1930s that offered him the opportunity to rise. He was one person who managed to put it all together and rally people, but most of his ideas were already around in Germany...and in other European countries. I mean it's not even the Nazis who commited Germany's first genocide. Since we're on the subject of Black people, the anti-Black sentiment was HEAVY in Germany not only for the "regular" reasons but also because the French army deployed African soldiers in occupied Rhineland after the WW1. Losing to the French was harsh, but to them being occupied by Black soldiers was a step too far, calling it the "Black Shame" (Die schwarze Schmach). And that was in the 20s, long before Hitler was relevant.

 

[Koba St]

Word at this point it’s like which European country has the least blood on their hands. We get it.

there is a Black Holocaust museum in Milwaukee, check it out OP if you interested in the topic

These nikkas entire identity is based on being historical victims. They love that shyt. If some race were massacred in China in the 12th century, they will try and link black people there too as being part of the victims of that massacre

 

[Koba St]

This rhetorical question has never and will never make any sense. Hitler didn't invent fascism, nor pangermanism, nor deep antisemitism, nor ultra-nationalism, nor anti-communism, nor the political/economical situation in Germany in the 1930s that offered him the opportunity to rise. He was one person who managed to put it all together and rally people, but most of his ideas were already around in Germany...and in other European countries. I mean it's not even the Nazis who commited Germany's first genocide. Since we're on the subject of Black people, the anti-Black sentiment was HEAVY in Germany not only for the "regular" reasons but also because the French army deployed African soldiers in occupied Rhineland after the WW1. Losing to the French was harsh, but to them being occupied by Black soldiers was a step too far, calling it the "Black Shame" (Die schwarze Schmach). And that was in the 20s, long before Hitler was relevant.

But if Hitler had never been born there would’ve been no Holocaust.

 

[Brer Dog]

Since yall on this ados vs African shyt
Shouldn't this not be a concern of ADOS ?

OP is Caribbean if I'm not mistaken.

Edit: he's Nigerian.

 

[mbewane]

But if Hitler had never been born there would’ve been no Holocaust.

Speculation. Europe has been deeply antisemitic since forever, there were antisemitic laws in various countries and, like I said earlier, Germany (not Nazi Germany, "regular" Germany) had already commited one genocide before Hitler seized power.

I think people severely underestimate just how antisemitic most European countries, including Germany, were at that time. And still are. But it makes sense : focusing on Hitler as an individual makes it "easy" : "no Hitler, no Holocaust". Makes it sound as if only one person was the problem, while it was obviously much more than just one person.

 

[George's Dilemma]

Speculation. Europe has been deeply antisemitic since forever, there were antisemitic laws in various countries and, like I said earlier, Germany (not Nazi Germany, "regular" Germany) had already commited one genocide before Hitler seized power.

I think people severely underestimate just how antisemitic most European countries, including Germany, were at that time. And still are. But it makes sense : focusing on Hitler as an individual makes it "easy" : "no Hitler, no Holocaust". Makes it sound as if only one person was the problem, while it was obviously much more than just one person.

This. And Nationalism along with autocratic and fascist movements is back in full force in multiple European countries. You've got Fox News personalities cheerleading those movements cuz they want to see the same thing to some extent happen here.

 

[Koba St]

Speculation. Europe has been deeply antisemitic since forever, there were antisemitic laws in various countries and, like I said earlier, Germany (not Nazi Germany, "regular" Germany) had already commited one genocide before Hitler seized power.

I think people severely underestimate just how antisemitic most European countries, including Germany, were at that time. And still are. But it makes sense : focusing on Hitler as an individual makes it "easy" : "no Hitler, no Holocaust". Makes it sound as if only one person was the problem, while it was obviously much more than just one person.

It’s not speculation, it’s a fact. Antisemitism had been in Europe for centuries and there were occasional pogroms against Jews, especially in Russia but it was Hitler alone who truly industrialised antisemitism and turned it into the Holocaust. Without Hitler there would have been no Second World War and no Holocaust. That’s not up for debate

 

[get these nets]

Article is either incomplete or slanted in a way to make people care about the holocaust that occurred in Europe in the 1930s.
I get it. The targeted victims of that atrocity view Hitler as the most evil man ever, and try hard to get others to adopt that view.

I said article is incomplete because I kept waiting for it to mention the genocide German govt./military committed in their African colonies decades earlier. A precursor to the holocaust.

That genocide and their policies in Namibia were standard practices of Euros when dealing with indigenous people in that era. Only difference with the Nazis was that they used those policies domestically towards people who (thought they were) German citizens.

Hitler is not quiet the outlier that Jews portray him as, nor is the holocaust quiet the unique atrocity that they'd have us believe.

 

[Bud Bundy]

Would y'all put a pillow over a 5 month old infant Hitler's head or just kidnap him and give him to someone who would raise him to be a decent human being?


Nature vs nurture

 

[Piff Perkins]

Would y'all put a pillow over a 5 month old infant Hitler's head or just kidnap him and give him to someone who would raise him to be a decent human being?


Nature vs nurture

No. I wouldn’t change anything in the past because there’s no way of predicting how that change would alter history. Killing Hitler might prevent the Holocaust, or might not given the anti semitism of Germany/Europe. It might prevent WWII or lead to a larger war between the US and Russia/Stalin.

Things turned out pretty well from an American perspective. I’m not risking that.

 

[EndGame]

Who is the writer of this shyt? Hitler was none of our concern.

 

[mbewane]

It’s not speculation, it’s a fact. Antisemitism had been in Europe for centuries and there were occasional pogroms against Jews, especially in Russia but it was Hitler alone who truly industrialised antisemitism and turned it into the Holocaust. Without Hitler there would have been no Second World War and no Holocaust. That’s not up for debate

Yeah, Germany was really cool relaxed and in good spirits after WW1

 

[mbewane]

Article is either incomplete or slanted in a way to make people care about the holocaust that occurred in Europe in the 1930s.
I get it. The targeted victims of that atrocity view Hitler as the most evil man ever, and try hard to get others to adopt that view.

I said article is incomplete because I kept waiting for it to mention the genocide German govt./military committed in their African colonies decades earlier. A precursor to the holocaust.

That genocide and their policies in Namibia were standard practices of Euros when dealing with indigenous people in that era. Only difference with the Nazis was that they used those policies domestically towards people who (thought they were) German citizens.

Hitler is not quiet the outlier that Jews portray him as, nor is the holocaust quiet the unique atrocity that they'd have us believe.

Yep, Nazis and Hitler aren't outliers in German nor European history, at most they pushed pre-existing logics to their extreme. But it's way more reassuring (especially for Westerners) to act as if all of this was only Hitler's fault. It's easier to attack one person than a system.

 

[JadeB]

OP is Caribbean if I'm not mistaken.

I'm Nigerian