Black People can no longer cry about Racism.

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EastCoastNaga negged you for your post in the thread Black People can no longer cry about Racism.. With the following comment: Caucasian
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Politer Said: You'd be the dumb person in this meme, though. When it comes to anything that requires brain power, my track word is impeccable on this site and if you want to challenge that then you'll just be another peon I embarassed:russ:.

NoChill Jones: You mean embarrassed right?.........Rigghhhhhhhhhht. Just stop breh :laff:. Working OT so got all night to cop a squat all over this troll ass thread.


And this offended him, cause I got the best of the nikka......this is the shyt Im talking about. These are the nikkas you all got so much respect for. DUMBASSES
 

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Reading through this thread for the first time.

This post implies that blacks who dare to try and fight against certain aspects of American society are completely stagnant in their thinking and think we have reach the precipice of black progress. I haven't seen any progressive minded blacks who think this.

Now you can argue its a futile fight, which I'm inclined to agree to some extent, but again, unless you're proposing that all black folks leave America and stop operating in this society as a whole, I honestly do not see the harm in also fighting against active campaigns to harm black folks politically, economically, and socially. Because, if you're negligent, and you intend on staying in the United States, then this society will make sure you're on a continuous slide away from succeeding.

Because humans only have a finite attention span, two hands, and 24 hours to a day.

This argument is as dishonest as the Black womanist who claims they can fight both patriarchy and racism yet allocate 98% of their time railing against patriarchy.
 

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Just my general thoughts.

I do agree, that if your focus is on this "rainbow coalition" society where everyone is mingling without any conflict and for blacks to somehow end up in American society on equal footing in the minds of other races... you're going to be disappointed.

However, the first step is for Blacks to get their collective education and money up first before the next steps are made. Whether that is here in America or elsewhere. While at the same time, focus on reinvesting in the black community only to help support it. You start doing this by the most simple of things such as dating/marrying black, which I personally do. Then you also work on making sure you network and socialize with other black people so you can share knowledge and reinvest internally. This means not dying to live in white neighborhoods and sending your kid to a school where they are only 1 out of 4 black kids in the entire black school and are socialized around nothing but whites. This is my plan and I've actually thought about starting a organization or joining an already existing one where black people who want to build are working towards building successful black communities.

However, at the same time, we still need soldiers and people who are politically engaged with the system here to make sure while we're in the process of doing the above, we are not being hampered without putting up a fight. Cynicism and outright dismissal of this fact doesn't accomplish anything. You can do both and multitask in this aspect. You can look to build the black community but also making sure that external factors are not going to lead to making this harder.

I see a lot of this on this forum where people act like its an either/or situation. Either you have to do this or you have to do that. There is very little discussion and attention given to the possibility that both options are available and may be a better third option.
 

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Because humans only have a finite attention span, two hands, and 24 hours to a day.

This argument is as dishonest as the Black womanist who claims they can fight both patriarchy and racism yet allocate 98% of their time railing against patriarchy.
So, I JUST address this idea above. Not one person has to take on this particular fight and handle all aspects of the fight as a whole though. As a collective, you can have your people who are focused on building up the internal structure of black "liberation" and empowerment while at the same time having people be a part of that collective effort who man the battlefields outside the community. Their collective work together while each individual focusing on their individual parts will lead to an OVERALL stronger movement. That is what I'm saying.

Some people are better at one thing or the other. There are some people who are very politically astute who may be better at fighting those external battles while some people are maybe more leaders who can help form collective movements in our community. Each one would have their purpose and each one would be working towards the collective well being of blacks in america.

It doesn't have to be all or nothing.
 

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So, I JUST address this idea above. Not one person has to take on this particular fight and handle all aspects of the fight as a whole though. As a collective, you can have your people who are focused on building up the internal structure of black "liberation" and empowerment while at the same time having people be a part of that collective effort who man the battlefields outside the community. Their collective work together while each individual focusing on their individual parts will lead to an OVERALL stronger movement. That is what I'm saying.

It doesn't have to be all or nothing.

As long as the black man keeps attempting to move forward with the idealism that we are one solidified being, the black man will continue to be treated as one solidified entity. :yeshrug:.
 

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So, I JUST address this idea above. Not one person has to take on this particular fight and handle all aspects of the fight as a whole though. As a collective, you can have your people who are focused on building up the internal structure of black "liberation" and empowerment while at the same time having people be a part of that collective effort who man the battlefields outside the community. Their collective work together while each individual focusing on their individual parts will lead to an OVERALL stronger movement. That is what I'm saying.

It doesn't have to be all or nothing.

I don't personally see the numbers as a population to splinter into multiple fronts, especially since I'm of the belief fighting to change American society from the inside won't yield results.

I'm not even of the belief of being insular from American society. American society is of no importance. Rather, I view AAs and other diasporans as satelites of the African continent and its nations. Maybe you should (re)read this thread : Black Diasporic Essentials For "Liberation"
 

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This is ridiculous on many levels. I can't take anyone seriously who believes black people are content with racism.

Seems you didn't understand a thing you were reading...

How is this thread relevant at all when the entire premise is that black people somehow enabled this to happen when we were the main group that came out to oppose trump?

You're furthering my point by assuming this is about Trump or that Trump is somehow a metric for Black progression/regression.
 

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Seems you didn't understand a thing you were reading...



You're furthering my point by assuming this is about Trump or that Trump is somehow a metric for Black progression/regression.
Hahaha. Naw. I understand exactly what you're doing and it's ridiculous.

I don't know where to begin. I don't think you understand what you're saying. For you to say black people want to maintain their position beneath white people implies black people enjoy racism.

You've been smoking that sherm.
 

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I don't personally see the numbers as a population to splinter into multiple fronts, especially since I'm of the belief fighting to change American society from the inside won't yield results.

I'm not even of the belief of being insular from American society. American society is of no importance. Rather, I view AAs and other diasporans as satelites of the African continent and its nations. Maybe you should (re)read this thread : Black Diasporic Essentials For "Liberation"
We have 34 million people. There is enough work to go around with those numbers. The problem is that unfortunately we HAVE A LOT of those 34 million (not counting the young of course) who either as already pointed out, still think they're going to get an equal seat at the table, selling their own community down the river, or just completely directionless and therefore doing nothing to improve the black community.

Before we even think about organizing, we need to fix the holes in our boat. While we are doing that, we need to make sure that we have a good defense against attacks. That means being aware and engaged with what is happening around you.

Unless, everyone is moving tomorrow or in the very near future which we isn't happening. So until we fix the issues in the community that are hampering progress, I think its important to stay engaged to make sure there is no slowing or reducing that progress any further.
 

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How is this thread relevant at all when the entire premise is that black people somehow enabled this to happen when we were the main group that came out to oppose trump?

This post has nothing to do with what my post was about. I'm referring to the OPs points about blacks being so scared of Trump when we ALWAYS lived in a white supremacist country. THIS IS WHAT THE OP IS ADDRESSING!
Chicago brehs, beware. Trump will drop a massive hammer on you.

^^I see more and more fear mongering threads like that by the hour.
 

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Hahaha. Naw. I understand exactly what you're doing and it's ridiculous.

I don't know where to begin. I don't think you understand what you're saying. For you to say black people want to maintain their position beneath white people implies black people enjoy racism.

You've been smoking that sherm.

You basically posted all of that to say nothing and couldn't prove me wrong if you tried.

We have 34 million people. There is enough work to go around with those numbers. The problem is that unfortunately we HAVE A LOT of those 34 million (not counting the young of course) who either as already pointed out, still think they're going to get an equal seat at the table, selling their own community down the river, or just completely directionless and therefore doing nothing to improve the black community.

Before we even think about organizing, we need to fix the holes in our boat. While we are doing that, we need to make sure that we have a good defense against attacks. That means being aware and engaged with what is happening around you.

Unless, everyone is moving tomorrow or in the very near future which we isn't happening. So until we fix the issues in the community that are hampering progress, I think its important to stay engaged to make sure there is no slowing or reducing that progress any further.

Paragraph one kind of makes my argument as to why we shouldn't splinter our efforts on multiple fronts.

And I'm not even advocating for "organizing." If you read my other thread, its about practical and applicable things that any one person can do to facilitate progress. Doing SMARTER business would do a whole lot more for the diaspora than voting, marching and immigrating to the next hotspot to make pennies.
 

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I'm not even of the belief of being insular from American society. American society is of no importance. Rather, I view AAs and other diasporans as satelites of the African continent and its nations. Maybe you should (re)read this thread : Black Diasporic Essentials For "Liberation"[/QUOTE]

Yet they mimic us
You basically posted all of that to say nothing and couldn't prove me wrong if you tried.



Paragraph one kind of makes my argument as to why we shouldn't splinter our efforts on multiple fronts.

And I'm not even advocating for "organizing." If you read my other thread, its about practical and applicable things that any one person can do to facilitate progress. Doing SMARTER business would do a whole lot more for the diaspora than voting, marching and immigrating to the next hotspot to make pennies.


nikka do you even a job? Degree? Do you help in needy communities? Give to charities? Part of any black societies? Have you ever marched? Rallied? Protested? Did anything for black people except bytch and complain using broke ass logic you've accumulated from other fake youtube nikkas? I bet you the type to wear a kufi and dashiki talking about

 

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We have 34 million people. There is enough work to go around with those numbers. The problem is that unfortunately we HAVE A LOT of those 34 million (not counting the young of course) who either as already pointed out, still think they're going to get an equal seat at the table, selling their own community down the river, or just completely directionless and therefore doing nothing to improve the black community.

Before we even think about organizing, we need to fix the holes in our boat. While we are doing that, we need to make sure that we have a good defense against attacks. That means being aware and engaged with what is happening around you.

Unless, everyone is moving tomorrow or in the very near future which we isn't happening. So until we fix the issues in the community that are hampering progress, I think its important to stay engaged to make sure there is no slowing or reducing that progress any further.
Breh stop it. You can tell from OP he an island black. The condescending tone screams islander. I could go further into it, but unlike them I don't enjoy using divisive rhetoric.

He really believes black people are content with getting enslaved and marginalized in America. That is the position of an insane person. All the while whatever island he's from, you know what nvm. Lol, I'm in the air, out this bytch.

I've read OP over five times because I thought I was tripping. My family has done a lot for civil rights in America and I assure you none of us are happy coming in second to any ethnic group or nationality that isn't African American.

A lot of island blacks think they're better than AA for whatever reason. There's a reason I never send money and I will never visit those places. Every time I see a hurricane brewing I say a prayer for them and that's as far as it goes.
 
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