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sanders ain't getting the nod unless something crazy happens. sanders hurting for the black vote....only got some young no life experience blacks behind him that smoke weed like hippies.

capitalism has pulled more people out of poverty than any system. We all ain't in a bread line. Global economy...every US citizen can be a millionaire and the rest of the world can work for us.

But lets start with corporate tax cuts and then we can keep manufacturing around a little longer....but people need to leave that to third world countries and do something that is custom manufacturing or sit behind a computer.
 

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You know the sister's video I'm going to post will go more in depth also.

But its a clear cut explanation imo. We don't mix with Capitalism, it is a slave system set up off of slavery and basically is slavery by another name. Capitalism's cover story is that it is a social system based on the principle of individual rights, that infuse energy via production resulting in a free market, which for Black people also is a warning and hint as to why this wasn't, is not and will not be something that we can employ while being integrated with a caucasion colony. The fact that their "Wall Street" was not only built by an actual slave force and where our ancestors are buried beneath, but we were first sold as the first market of Wall street, yet we are still treated like second class citizens socially and economically, and have not been paid our reparations, should tell you why and how this system was created in the first place and why we need a Black nation to ourselves to set up our own system for our people.

Now i'll post the sister's video I've known for some years and her explanation also below, but lets discuss this in a rational and intelligent manner if possible....:mjpls:



In the current global capitalist system, money talks. You do not have a say unless you can show the cash. This stands to reason why black people have no say. Hundreds of years of oppression in the forms of slavery, colonization and neo-colonialism have continued to rob black people of their wealth. So i can see why black people would believe that to acquire mass amounts of money would change something. I hate to break it to you capitalist but that wont happen. Oh sure two or three or even a hundred of you will make some money, but if black people all over the world started to organize and practice self determination in their communities, in this current system, those communities would be targeted and dismantled.

Capitalism means we (Africans) can only exists as workers or as poor miserable masses.

Capitalism seeks out the weakest of us (government officials, cia and fbi agents etc) to sell out our communities, for notoriety or profit. This is how it happened during slavery, colonialsm, neo-colonialism, black revolution of the 60's, 70's and 80's and today.

Onixisis: a member of the African People's Socialist Party (APSP) which means I am an African Internationalist.

:salute:

what is the alternative?
 

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capitilism is the best system we have right now, something blacks have to adapt to, not run away from.

my rep had returned to positive before I jumped in this thread. Then those crazy Bernie Sanders socialist fans dropped me down 300! aka biscuit lady & her crushes buying into that sanders rhetoric.

Then you got those stipend people that think the gov should pay them to post on the coli all day....and they were mad too, lol.
 

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my rep had returned to positive before I jumped in this thread. Then those crazy Bernie Sanders socialist fans dropped me down 300! aka biscuit lady & her crushes buying into that sanders rhetoric.

Then you got those stipend people that think the gov should pay them to post on the coli all day....and they were mad too, lol.
:mjlol: fukking socialists are nutbags :dead:
 

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my rep had returned to positive before I jumped in this thread. Then those crazy Bernie Sanders socialist fans dropped me down 300! aka biscuit lady & her crushes buying into that sanders rhetoric.

Then you got those stipend people that think the gov should pay them to post on the coli all day....and they were mad too, lol.

I know you watched 2 episodes of Shark Tank so you think you are up to speed... but you don't understand economics. Specifically, economic securities as it relates to systematic stability.

In life there is something called a line of attrition. You might know this as other terms such as boiling point or breaking point, rock bottom, etc.
When a person falls below the accepted line of attrition within a society they become dangerous to those interacting within the established system (consumer/producers) because when you are below the line of attrition the risk vs reward for scenerios like 'should I rob this dude?' 'should I kill this bytch?' 'should I rape this chick?' favor heavy reward for taking action and minimal risk due to minimum possible penalty.

See, when the average person questions whether to do those things they consider losing their car, their job... no longer seeing their familly, no more internet porn and video games or greasy foods or whatever they fancy... but a person below the line of attrition (aka at rock bottom or the breaking point) is like oh well, fukk it. Then they murder or rob or rape a chump. Those chumps that end up at the business end of the gun are usually frail fat cacs and other squares or easy marks. The very same type of person you see on fox news bytching about entitlement programs are the kind of ppl that get lit up on the way home when they aren't in place.

This is why the government has programs like welfare and free cell phones and low income housing.
Not to protect the poor, but to protect the rich from the poor.

So when you listen to people discuss welfare queens and food stamps and similar things disparagingly, or when I see a person like yourself use terms like 'stipend people who think they should get paid to post on the coli' what you are really doing is showing those of us that understand economics that you very much don't.

Be thankful ppl smarter than yourself are keeping the ppl you look down on from going through your wallet while you bleed out.
Cause it can all go left in the blink of an eye kiddo.
 

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That's an indisputable fact, In fact the greatest shift out of poverty occurred in China when they changed to capitalism

http://www.economist.com/news/leade...out-extreme-poverty-20-years-world-should-aim

Any black person that thinks there can be a reduction in black poverty rates without capitalism is ignorant and delusional

The type of thinking in the thread title is like a how to stay broke guide for black people
A well regulated capitalist system is the best system in this world to provide mobility (until energy is no longer scarce at least). It allows you to climb the ladder, even if climbing the ladder is rare or takes multiple generations.

How well regulated the capitalist system should be is where most Americans disagree.

The libertarian ideology is so retarded because it basically says the capitalist system should be regulated by market forces instead of the government.

That makes sense in textbooks, but it ignores humanity. Unemployed people don't just disappear. Really poor people can only take getting shyt on for so long until they start chopping rich people's heads off. The government is there to balance the scales of capitalism so that it can actually function in the real world.
 
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