Black Muslims: This don't plauge yo mind?

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do you think pre-Islamic "identities" in the subcontinent were all achieved through friendly osmosis?

They were still almost homogeneous in nature.

For example, there is much difference when comparing what the Europeans did to the Natives here in America, then what they did to each other during the Civil War.

Islam is a white Arab religion. Always has been, Always will be.
 

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Hang on, I know its been mentioned and I'm not defending christianity (I'm an atheist) but how the fukk can anyone deny arab muslims enslaving black people when there is a country called sudan in this world?
 

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They were still almost homogeneous in nature.

For example, there is much difference when comparing what the Europeans did to the Natives here in America, then what they did to each other during the Civil War.

Islam is a white Arab religion. Always has been, Always will be.

You still haven't told us what history you were referencing when you said that Indians were enslaved and had their culture taken from muslim arabs.
 

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You still haven't told us what history you were referencing when you said that Indians were enslaved and had their culture taken from muslim arabs.

it's a completely dumb argument breh. There was no such thing as "india" back then and the central asians that came down combined indian and persian cultures (and indians, central asians, persians etc are already genetically related anyway so..)
 

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it's a completely dumb argument breh. There was no such thing as "india" back then and the central asians that came down combined indian and persian cultures (and indians, central asians, persians etc are already genetically related anyway so..)

It's the internet equivalent of just liking to "hear yourself talk," dude has absolutely no idea what he's talking about. These are the kind of arguments made by people who think Iran is an Arab country.
 

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If Muhammad was white, then what should we consider a pasty ass brazilian like you? :stopitslime:

Muhammad was white. That's not my opinion. That's a fact. The Semitic people are white people. You keep thinking of white as "WASP".

Matter of fact, me and you had this exact conversation on SOHH months ago. I said that growing up in Brazil I was always considered white, and only when I came to America I was considered something else. You said "You aren't a WASP but you're still white."

That's your words.

Muhammad was white. Why does it matter to you? Isn't it his message that's important? You can't say that, because your entire history of this forum has been about what the CACs do to "brown people". Now, when presented with the fact that your entire reason of existence is due to a white man, you shy away.
 

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Two Indians defending their White Arab overlords.

Sources indicate that the castes among Muslims developed as the result of the concept of Kafa'a. Those who are referred to as Ashrafs (see also Sharif) are presumed to have a superior status derived from their foreign Arab ancestry, while the Ajlafs are assumed to be converts from Hinduism, and have a lower status. Actual Muslim social practice, including in India, points to the existence of sharp social hierarchies that numerous Muslim scholars have sought to provide appropriate Islamic sanction through elaborate rules of fiqh associated with the notion of kafa'a.
Most prominent Muslim scholars like Ahmad Raza Khan Barelvi and Ashraf Ali Faruqui Thanvi have championed the notion of caste superiority based on birth. It is argued that Muslims of Arab origin (Sayyeds and Shaikhs) are superior to non-Arab or Ajami Muslims, and so while a man who claims Arab origin can marry an Ajami woman, the reverse is not possible. Likewise, they argue, a Pathan Muslim man can marry a Julaha (Ansari) Mansuri (Dhunia,) Rayin (Kunjra) or Quraishi (Qasai or butchers) woman, but an Ansari, Rayin, Mansuri and Quraishi man cannot marry a Pathan woman since they consider these castes to be inferior to Pathans.
Many of these ulama also believed that it is best to marry within one own caste. The practice of endogamous marriage in one's caste is strictly observed in India.Interestingly, in three genetic studies representing the whole of South Asian Muslims, it was found that the Muslim population was overwhelmingly similar to the local non-Muslims associated with minor but still detectable levels of gene flow from outside, primarily from Iran and Central Asia, rather than directly from the Arabian Peninsula

In the 8th century, the province of Sindh (in present day Pakistan) was conquered by an Arab army led by Muhammad bin Qasim. Sindh became the easternmost province of the Umayyad Caliphate.
In the first half of the 10th century, Mahmud of Ghazni added the Punjab to the Ghaznavid Empire and conducted several raids deeper into modern day India. In 11th century, Ghazi Saiyyad Salar Masud played significant role. A more successful invasion came at the end of the 12th century by Muhammad of Ghor. This eventually led to the formation of the Delhi Sultanate.
 

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Muhammad was white. That's not my opinion. That's a fact. The Semitic people are white people. You keep thinking of white as "WASP".

Matter of fact, me and you had this exact conversation on SOHH months ago. I said that growing up in Brazil I was always considered white, and only when I came to America I was considered something else. You said "You aren't a WASP but you're still white."

That's your words.

Muhammad was white. Why does it matter to you? Isn't it his message that's important? You can't say that, because your entire history of this forum has been about what the CACs do to "brown people". Now, when presented with the fact that your entire reason of existence is due to a white man, you shy away.

If Allah decided to make his Prophet Chinese it wouldn't bother me, that's not the issue. You're only making the argument that Muhammad was white because you think that will somehow cheapen my identity as a Muslim. That's weak sauce.

Me calling you white because of your EUROPEAN ancestry isn't in any way comparable to you calling Muhammad white "just because." Muhammad was an Arab, not because I want him to be, but because that's what the historical record says he was. You are a pasty white brazilian with predominantly European ancestry calling Arabs "cacs." :what: You sound stupid, seriously.
 

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Two Indians defending their White Arab overlords.

....but yet India has retained it's distinct culture, and the majority of Indians are still hindus which contradicts what you were implying with your initial statement. It's time to stop digging breh. :dead: @ arab overlords.
 

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If Allah decided to make his Prophet Chinese it wouldn't bother me, that's not the issue. You're only making the argument that Muhammad was white because you think that will somehow cheapen my identity as a Muslim. That's weak sauce.

Me calling you white because of your EUROPEAN ancestry isn't in any way comparable to you calling Muhammad white "just because." Muhammad was an Arab, not because I want him to be, but because that's what the historical record says he was. You are a pasty white brazilian with predominantly European ancestry calling Arabs "cacs." :what: You sound stupid, seriously.


Okay, you proved my point. You think white means European because the Colonialists and Imperialists made you believe it.

Muhammad was an Arab. An Arab is Semitic. The Semitic People, and the people of the Mediterranean and Persia are all related. He's white. Get over it.

I don't think it cheapens you being a Muslim because he's white. I think you feel it cheapens it because he's white. It doesn't matter to me.
 

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....but yet India has retained it's distinct culture, and the majority of Indians are still hindus which contradicts what you were implying with your initial statement. It's time to stop digging breh. :dead: @ arab overlords.


In the 8th century, the province of Sindh (in present day Pakistan) was conquered by an Arab army led by Muhammad bin Qasim. Sindh became the easternmost province of the Umayyad Caliphate.
In the first half of the 10th century, Mahmud of Ghazni added the Punjab to the Ghaznavid Empire and conducted several raids deeper into modern day India. In 11th century, Ghazi Saiyyad Salar Masud played significant role. A more successful invasion came at the end of the 12th century by Muhammad of Ghor. This eventually led to the formation of the Delhi Sultanate.

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