Black Man Gets Convicted of Killing Two White Teens And in Court Says THis
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Y'all don't pay attention to politics much do you? Yes, the wrong thing said by the wrong person can very much affect the viability of movements.
Tell us more about this "movement"
Tell us more about this "movement"
You don't read the news much? Blacklivesmatter, I am Mike Brown, call for reform in police departments and the handling of officer involved shootings. Those kinda deals.
You're projecting too muchHow does it ruin anything?
Where is the proof those two adults were tortured besides a fox article saying so?
Where did he even compare anything?
And you clearly care that he was supposedly "torturing cacs". Like"breh you can't be treating those white folks like that"
You don't read the news much? Blacklivesmatter, I am Mike Brown, call for reform in police departments and the handling of officer involved shootings. Those kinda deals.
Yes, we know all the hashtags, tell us about the movements, all you guys have been able to tell us is what will "hurt" the movement.
Tell us some of the things #Blacklivesmatter has accomplished thus far.
Yes, we know all the hashtags, tell us about the movements, all you guys have been able to tell us is what will "hurt" the movement.
Tell us some of the things #Blacklivesmatter has accomplished thus far.
You've got city, state, and federal legislatures either introducing or passing bills requiring police officers to wear body cameras. (Not the end all be all but it's a start)
Ferguson now has a citizen review board (again not the best thing in the world but it's a step), recruiting more minority officers, and more officers from the city. Doesn't look like Wilson is facing federal charges but the FPD may come under federal oversight.
Federal legislation introduced to address the DOD program giving surplus military equipment to law enforcement.
The President has a task force addressing policing recommendations, focusing on inherent biases that officers hold. Baltimore PD is going through this kind of training so let's hope it gains popularity or becomes mandated. At very least there has been A LOT of attention to the subject.
Holder's reduction of civil forfeiture practices may or may not be linked to this but I wouldn't be surprised if it were.
Patrick Lynch's tantrums may be getting him knocked out of the union leadership. VERY good news if for nothing else than he's an a$$hole.
You've got increased political recognition (this is probably the most important piece) of the problem. Hillary Clinton (very probably the next POTUS) throwing her name behind black lives matter and supporting the protests.
We've gotten international support. This is that soft stuff. The CIA torture report and Garner decisions were released the same week. We're losing ground on the international stage and if we wanna keep up good appearances (which we want and need to do), there's gonna have to be a correction. You've got foreign heads of state citing Ferguson as a reason not to come to the table with us.
Again none of these things are alone sufficient to solve the problem. In terms of this guy speaking out at his sentencing, it's not helpful. This is about political capital. Is Clinton or Obama or a very conservative House and Senate going to support federal legislation when Willie Horton just decided to join in on camera? When someone says the wrong thing, your support from upstairs runs. They no longer want to be associated with toxic assets. The importance of this can't be overstated in black civil rights matters. Scalise and Boehner and Paul can get away with that kinda stuff. We can't. Despite a conservative House and Senate, the President is on a bit of a roll. IF something's gonna happen, it's gonna happen when it's politically viable. What we don't need is someone screwing that up. According to just about every insider or analyst, the President and Holder are both big on civil rights. If they could've come up with a case against Wilson, they would've gone for it. They are notoriously difficult to successfully prosecute. The department is the next best thing and they intend to clamp down on them. And we'll see about a lot of this legislation. NYPD's pouting resulted from this and from what I understand it's great.
It's slow and unsteady. But what we don't need is anybody around who is gonna screw it up. That's the way the game gets played. Off the cuff comments can topple political appeal.
Which haven't been properly enforced.
Recent stories have shown that "minority" officers are just as likely to act reckless.
It won't help anything. Hilary Clinton?
They were never going to help.
Which haven't been properly enforced.
Recent stories have shown that "minority" officers are just as likely to act reckless.
Hilary Clinton?
They were never going to help.
So you'd rather have nothing.
Recent stories also show that minority officers tend to be the whistle-blowers.
International pressure can get things done. Never a sure bet but on our slow downward slide we'll be trying to save face a lot more.
These "ideas" and laws that are being proposed practically are nothing. They are supposed to have body cams on but they come up with bullshyt excuses like "I don't know how to use it" or "I forgot it".
And this picture perfectly encapsulates how ineffective these "protests" are.
These "ideas" and laws that are being proposed practically are nothing. They are supposed to have body cams on but they come up with bullshyt excuses like "I don't know how to use it" or "I forgot it".
And this picture perfectly encapsulates how ineffective these "protests" are.
Fine. Pack up. Go home.
Things are never going to be perfect. But there have been steps taken towards improvement. It's about putting structures and reforms in place (body cameras, civilian oversight, reduction of military surplus going to PDs, higher training standards, ect) that will HELP create more equitable outcomes. Nothing will ever be "enough", but we have more working towards these goals than we had two years ago.
The same argument can be made about dash cams. They aren't always on, they aren't always used to protect people from police overreach, but sometimes they are and that can mean the difference between a life sentence for some innocent guy and a cop being fired and prosecuted.
I can throw up pictures of Ferguson protests in Japan. Yes, general apathy and downright hostility will always be an issue. The protests are effective only to the extent that they cause structural change and those changes are taking place. One white chick walking away doesn't dictate how worthwhile or worthless these activities are.
If you have some ideas, we'd all be open to hearing them.
Malik
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But it IS the other way around. What you talking about IF....it is like that....already.
That's why nikkas dont give a fukk about these kids.
Because we see how we get done out here.
When people laugh at you dying, throw millions behind your murderer and let him walk free, hell yea Imma be ignorant as hell when it happens to them. Sorry. I'm coldhearted. Blame them. Not me
Shouldn't have been buying drugs
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godkiller
"We are the Fury"
Obviously.
BlackFruitPunch
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Damn them nikkas look like some buffoons.These "ideas" and laws that are being proposed practically are nothing. They are supposed to have body cams on but they come up with bullshyt excuses like "I don't know how to use it" or "I forgot it".
And this picture perfectly encapsulates how ineffective these "protests" are.
samtalksradio
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I've just seen this story on Alex Jones Facebook page you all know Alex Jones right? The so-called truther/undercover racist well anyways this is what I said.
I just want to say fukk them two crackers they deserved to die for trying to buy drugs in Detroit... But seriously, it's funny how you all ignore the fact that these white boys were drug addicted thugs. if this was the other way around and it was two black kids buying drugs and got killed by a white boy you all would be calling them thugs... Oh well Karmas a bytch ain't it crackers? good riddance I say two more potential mass killers died just like the thugs they are.
White folks were furious as hell I simple explained to them this is how they sound when they cheer on black deaths still nothing but ****** this ****** that lol. white folks are hypercrites they only care about their own and don't give a fukk about us. why are black people in this topic feeling sorry for these two white boys they were buying drugs anyways which according to white people logic would make them a thug's so therefore they deserve it 
hey white boys get killed trying to buy drugs everyday B
no remorse coming from me
I just want to say fukk them two crackers they deserved to die for trying to buy drugs in Detroit... But seriously, it's funny how you all ignore the fact that these white boys were drug addicted thugs. if this was the other way around and it was two black kids buying drugs and got killed by a white boy you all would be calling them thugs... Oh well Karmas a bytch ain't it crackers? good riddance I say two more potential mass killers died just like the thugs they are.
White folks were furious as hell I simple explained to them this is how they sound when they cheer on black deaths still nothing but ****** this ****** that lol. white folks are hypercrites they only care about their own and don't give a fukk about us. why are black people in this topic feeling sorry for these two white boys they were buying drugs anyways which according to white people logic would make them a thug's so therefore they deserve it hey white boys get killed trying to buy drugs everyday B
no remorse coming from me
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How does it ruin anything?
Where is the proof those two adults were tortured besides a fox article saying so?
Where did he even compare anything?
And you clearly care that he was supposedly "torturing cacs". Like"
Don't fukking project on me, bytch.
If the shoe was on the other foot, you'd be calling him a "sick, deranged cac" but because he's black and shouted out these victims of police brutality, your gonna look away from the fact he murdered two innocent people?
If they were the police officers responsible for any of the deaths he mentioned or anyone on that KKK list anonymous leaked, I'd be all for it.
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