Black Lives Matter protesters start #CutTheCheck after not being paid

[newworldafro]

From that post how did you reach this conclusion?

You can hire people to do just about anything, fake protestors are a commodity and you can select your type. You think the calm peaceful "fake" protester is the only kind they can get??
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http://www.vice.com/read/its-now-possible-to-hire-fake-protesters

It's Now Possible to Hire Fake Protesters
August 6, 2013


by Jamie Lee Curtis Taete

West Coast Editor

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Fake protesters marching in Los Angeles.

Crowds on Demand, as the name suggests, is a company that will organize a crowd for you, on demand.

The two main scenarios that require this service are: 1) You're an aspiring celebrity who wants to make it seem like people give a shyt about you, so you hire some fake fans; or 2) you believe in a cause and want to make it seem like people give a shyt about it, so you hire some fake protesters.

Unfortunately, I couldn't go along to see one of the company's fake fan events (as they're super secret,) so I went along to a fake protest they organized in Los Angeles, instead. While there, I sat down for a chat with Crowds on Demand's founder and CEO, Adam Swart.

Fake protesters raising tourists' awareness on Hollywood Boulevard.

VICE: What's this event that's happening now?
Adam Swart: It's an event we're doing in coordination with a charity. We're trying to raise awareness about mental health issues. They want to raise a lot more awareness about mental health, which is an often overlooked issue when it comes to, uh, to policy.

OK. Are they paying you for this?
They get a discount. We give charities discounts.

How many people are protesting here?
About 20.

Are any of these guys real protesters or are they all provided by you?
They're all provided by me.

Can I ask how much they're getting paid for this?
They get $15 an hour.

If I wanted to do something like this and have 20 people protesting on my behalf, how much would that cost me?
Normally it would cost you a couple thousand dollars, but in this case we're doing it for less than that.

Your company also provides fake fans for things, right?
Yes, we surround people with an entourage. Security guards, paparazzi, fans—all the trappings of celebrity. It's like the whole experience of being famous. You'll be walking down the Vegas Strip or the Hollywood Walk of Fame and everyone will think you're an A-lister.

And who uses that service?
A lot of tourists will use it. People in the entertainment industry use it, people who are up-and-coming and want to increase hype for their name.

How much does that cost?
It all depends, it starts at the low thousands, though.

What would "the low thousands" provide me with?
A couple of photographers, five or six fans, and two security guards. A small entourage, but you don't need a large entourage to get attention.

A fake protester making an Amanda Bynes reference. When I asked one of the protesters if they knew what they were protesting for, he told me, "It's a day to ban guns, I think."

Anyway, back to this protest. What do the signs say?
"Purge Day USA." It's all about purging the mental health problems, like, think optimistically. It's a call for optimistic thinking and to sort of... purge your bad thoughts.

But with these signs that just say "purge day, August 21st"—what exactly is that giving to people who just drive past? I wouldn't know what that sign meant if I saw it. I would think it was something to do with the movie The Purge.
The goal, like with any sort of demonstration on the street, is to keep people's attention. So when they get home, maybe they tell their friends about it or they look it up on their computer. Just sort of spread the word about it.

Do you think it diminishes the impact of real protest when it's possible to hire protesters?
I think when the cause is good, and you're demonstrating over meaningful issues... What's important is the awareness, not the means.

Say a cause you don't agree with wanted to hire protesters. For instance, some kind of company who wanted to cause huge and terrible environmental damage offered you $50,000 to gather protesters to support their cause, would you do it?
I don't want to speculate hypothetically. I would look into each individual request and see whether it's worth being involved in... We have organized protests on behalf of private businesses before. But I don't want to speak in hypotheticals.

 

[Matt504]

You can hire people to do just about anything, fake protestors are a commodity and you can select. You think the calm nice "fake" protestor is the only kind they can get??

http://www.vice.com/read/its-now-possible-to-hire-fake-protesters

Lets talk about this instance, where is your proof that ANY protesters were "hired"?

You're in here regurgitating white supremacist talking points about a story purposely being taken out of context to imply that these people were hired to protest with zero proof outside of a hashtag, and when you search the hashtag, the "fake protesters" are nowhere to be found but what you will find is a bunch of white people using it in reference to this bullshyt story

 

[newworldafro]

Lets talk about this instance, where is your proof that ANY protesters were "hired"?

You're in here regurgitating white supremacist talking points about a story purposely being taken out of context to imply that these people were hired to protest with zero proof outside of a hashtag, and when you search the hashtag, the "fake protesters" are nowhere to be found but what you will find is a bunch of white people using it in reference to this bullshyt story

So you ain't just read that big ass letter saying they didn't get paid? Did you not just read the Vice article from 2013.

Where are seeing white supremacy?? ...maybe I missed it....theyhired fake protesters for the Wall Street/1% protests too. This is not a race thing. My point is, don't think there aren't other agendas being pushed to the front when major demonstrations begin..

Maybe this is a definition thing. My concept of an organic protest are people with real grievances that feel like they want to support or go against something.....and will volunteer their time and money to be part of it.

However, my definition of a fake protestor is someone that is likely shipped in from another state or region and is paid, and have to pay taxes on this payment to go rally somewhere. In other words, somebody is paying you to go do something, and you may or may not give a shiit....you have no affinity other than to get that check.

Even when they were busing in Northerners to the Deep South during the Civil Rights era, they weren't paying them living wages to go protests. Maybe I'm wrong though

 

[Matt504]

So you ain't just read that big ass letter saying they didn't get paid? Did you not just read the Vice article from 2013.

Where are seeing white supremacy?? ...maybe I missed it....theyhired fake protesters for the Wall Street/1% protests too. This is not a race thing. My point is, don't think there aren't other agendas being pushed to the front when major demonstrations begin..

Maybe this is a definition thing. My concept of an organic protest are people with real grievances that feel like they want to support or go against something.....and will volunteer their time and money to be part of it.

However, my definition of a fake protestor is someone that is likely shipped in from another state or region and is paid, and have to pay taxes on this payment to go rally somewhere. In other words, somebody is paying you to go do something, and you may or may not give a shiit....you have no affinity other than to get that check.

Even when they were busing in Northerners to the Deep South during the Civil Rights era, they weren't paying them living wages to go protests. Maybe I'm wrong though

If you think the jist of that letter is "we were hired to protest and we weren't paid" then you have terrible reading comprehension skills, again, where are all these "hired protesters" on the #cutthecheck hashtag, why aren't all these people demanding their money via raising social media awareness, WHERE ARE THE TWEETS?

 

[Robert California]

How do you sign up to be a protester...and get paid for it

 

[newworldafro]

If you think the jist of that letter is "we were hired to protest and we weren't paid" then you have terrible reading comprehension skills, again, where are all these "hired protesters" on the #cutthecheck hashtag, why aren't all these people demanding their money via raising social media awareness, WHERE ARE THE TWEETS?

I don't care about them not being paid or not, the point is that they WERE PAID to PROTEST. Other major protests like the Walls Street/1% also had people being paid to protest. I'm not saying they are bad people, but that is not organic and not genuine IMHO. If there are paid peaceful protesters, it would logically fall there are paid rioter protesters too. That's my point

The paid rioter protesters, especially, give increased impetus for local officials to call in police and others in full ready to battle mode gear. That's my point.

 

[Matt504]

I don't care about them not being paid or not, the point is that they WERE PAID to PROTEST. Other major protests like the Walls Street/1% also had being paid to protests. I'm not saying they are bad people, but that is not organic and not genuine. If you there are paid peaceful protestors, it would logically fall there are paid rioter protesters too. That's my point.

You have not produced any evidence of people being paid or hired to protest in this instance.

 

[newworldafro]

You have not produced any evidence of people being paid or hired to protest in this instance.

I'm done. Anybody else can have discourse with you.

 

[Matt504]

I'm done. Anybody else can have discourse with you.

"people were paid to protest at other protests so that's proof that they were paid to protest in this instance too, something something #cutthecheck"