Black Conservative....whats their reasons

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Black conservatism is shallow. It’s really about being a “safe” negro and appealing to white America. It’s trying to get ahead of other blacks by disowning blackness.

It can seem appealing but what is black conservatism really about? Isn’t conservatism about holding onto tradition and disavowing progressivist values? Isn’t Amero-tradition rooted in slavery, Negrophobia and anti-blackness? How can you be black and support values that dehumanize yourself?

I can’t trust black conservatives. You can be pro-personal responsibility and pro-family without selling out your blackness.
I mostly agree with this post. There's nothing wrong with people having different views on politics and society in general. However many black conservatives in the US are plain deluded.
 

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I mostly agree with this post. There's nothing wrong with people having different views on politics and society in general. However many black conservatives in the US are plain deluded.

Good post. Amero-conservatism scares me tho. Especially considering how many people are racist and use conservative as a shield for that. But you’re totally right. World wouldn’t be much fun if we all thought the same.
 

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The black conservatives you see on the tv are mentally off, and seek attention. I view them just as I view them liberal Shea butters and weak black males; not favorable.

Id consider the majority of men and women in my family black conservatives if I’m being honest. All of them vote Democrat.
 

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Former NFL player Jack Brewer once raised campaign money for President Barack Obama, but now he’s among the increasing number of black voters who support President Trump.

“There is an awakening going on right now in the country,” Mr. Brewer said of black voters who traditionally support Democrats. “I’m going to take the guy who’s actually putting in the policies that are going to make life better for my young black son and my young black daughter, versus somebody who gives me lip service — like, unfortunately, the Democrats have done for our community for years.”

Mr. Trump and his reelection team are aggressively courting black voters amid a strong economy that has reduced black unemployment to 5.5%, lowest in history. The Trump campaign launched its “Black Voices for Trump” coalition in Atlanta last month.......
There’s some evidence that the president’s policies and campaign outreach are making inroads with black voters. Three polls in November showed Mr. Trump’s job-approval rating among black voters in the 30% to 35% range, a significant increase over other surveys that have generally shown black voter support of less than 10%.

“I’ll remind you, the president received 8% of the black vote in 2016,” said a senior Trump campaign official........
Trump advisers point to other policies that are helping, such as criminal justice reform that lets more offenders win early release from prison and a second chance, and increased funding for Historically Black Colleges and Universities.

Mr. Brewer, a lifelong Democrat and entrepreneur who played for three NFL teams, said Mr. Trump is working much harder than any Republican candidate in his lifetime to reach out to black voters.

Donald Trump will get over 20% of the black vote,” Mr. Brewer said in an interview. “That is what’s going to win the election. Why? Because there hasn’t been a Republican to even try to go in and talk to the black community. They don’t go there. They don’t even try. I think he’s trying, finally.”

But Democratic leaders say Mr. Trump is a racially divisive president who attacks outspoken black people as a “dog whistle” to appeal to white voters, and that black voters will not join his campaign in significant numbers. They point to episodes such as Mr. Trump’s high-profile feuds with several black athletes, his attacks on Rep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota and three other freshman lawmakers of color known as “The Squad,” even his comparing his impeachment in a tweet to a lynching
‘Awakening’: Black voters ‘abandoned’ by Democrats warm to Trump
 

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It's tough to be honest. I think it's a bit of black folks getting fed up and leaving the D party. For instance, I can't say I never benefited from liberal policies but on the other hand pushing that LGBT stuff along with black folks is a problem. I don't mind a party who wants to help us but pushing other issues along with us and making us the face of those issues is a problem (LGBT).

IMO single motherhood is a failure but I understand why it's pushed, it just usually hurts young men of color raised in poor single parent households but you cannot admit that since people would be upset. It's a slippery slope, individualism has benefits (hustle, do what you wanna do since you earned it) but it has drawnbacks as well (out of wedlock kids) raising prices on people since they wreckless. For instance if a neighboor uses too much water and the city pays for water the city will stop paying for water and the people responsible so it's really tricky.

Who am I to say what someone can't or can't do (liberalism) but who I am to say when they get wreckless and conservatives come in bible thumping and preaching and cutting off funds?

It's a really tough thing to evualte fully. It's really a crap shoot. Do what you want but face the consequences...

Family, faith a religion are very conservative values and usually keep costs down but they capitalism takes a hit if people don't spend. I doubt mcDonalds is a billion dollar company from religionous folks with families, they make bread from single folks with a quick need for food who don't wanna go to the store and come home and cook.

It's tough man, I understand both sides of the argument, even here at the coli look how many dudes rejoice when hoes gotta "pay" for anything? Dudes were celebrating in the IRS taxing onlyfans thread where women were eating of dudes buying pictures...

On one hand dudes want the sex whenever they want it on the other when them women think for themselves dudes really begin to hate them lol.
 
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I’m socially conservative, and if it wasn’t for this reparations/black agenda push (as I believe Democrats are the only ones who can push the large policy(s) that would help), then I’d either not vote or vote conservative.

I am not pleased with what is currently going on socially. And if we’re being honest, I don’t want to align myself with what the left is pushing socially. I don’t want any part of it. I look at those transgender threads, and the people who argue for it, and get sick to my stomach when I realize I’m pretty much pushing for more of it with my Democrat vote, and through my vote I’m agreeing with it.
What does this have to do with politicians? Politicians don’t control the media, or all these celebrities promoting it. Voting Republican doesn’t stop people from speaking up. Since social media became what it is, we have access to everyone’s thoughts.
IMO single motherhood is a failure but I understand why it's pushed, it just usually hurts young men of color raised in poor single parent households but you cannot admit that since people would be upset. It's a slippery slope, individualism has benefits (hustle, do what you wanna do since you earned it) but it has drawnbacks as well (out of wedlock kids) raising prices on people since they wreckless. For instance if a neighboor uses too much water and the city pays for water the city will stop paying for water and the people responsible so it's really tricky.

How do politicians stop this? I think single parent households are the biggest problem in the black community, but we have to start making that shameful ourselves. If you want to say the government assistance makes it worse, I will say I think it’s unproductive to give women more money for having more kids considering they can’t afford the kids they have.
 

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Self interest. ( Low Taxation + Christian values )

Approval. ( Tokenism + media coverage )

They generally fall into these two camps.
 

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Black conservatism is shallow. It’s really about being a “safe” negro and appealing to white America. It’s trying to get ahead of other blacks by disowning blackness.

It can seem appealing but what is black conservatism really about? Isn’t conservatism about holding onto tradition and disavowing progressivist values? Isn’t Amero-tradition rooted in slavery, Negrophobia and anti-blackness? How can you be black and support values that dehumanize yourself?

I can’t trust black conservatives. You can be pro-personal responsibility and pro-family without selling out your blackness.

there is nothing wrong with being conservative & black.

who the fukk wants to be aligned with the party where young white liberals push us out the city so they can live in an “edgy” neighborhood & support the gay agenda..fukk all that

You can be conservative & not support trump as well.
 

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I’m not conservative, but I can respect many of their view points. I have heard good arguments from pro black conservatives.

The problem is many of these black republicans are c00ns. They don’t want to check racism when they see it. Also, it seems like every black conservative movement I see involves cacs. Many of the most well known black conservatives seem like grifters

On another note, the obsession with LGBT people on here is kinda weird. Gay people have little to no influence on my politics.
 

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What poor cartoonish examples of Black conservatives. Most of our grandparents were/are Black conservatives. They are much more “normal” in our community and history than Black progressives.

Read the book Saviors or Sellouts as well as Ship or Sea for good histories of Black conservatism. I probably would have been on the Black conservative spectrum pre-1940s though hopefully I would have supported the political side of the struggle (NAACP court cases, marches) as well as Civil Rights.

In particular Saviors or Sellouts makes a good case that Black conservatism transformed a lot from the time of Nixon and especially the time of Reagan. The 'organic' Black conservatives were either in the Democrat tent due to the Civil Rights movement or if they were still Republican, they left after Barry Goldwater got nominated in 1964 on an anti Civil Rights Act platform and the Dixiecrats flooded the GOP. In his autobiography, Blackthink, Jesse Robinson, who was very conservative, talks about how one of his Black Republican colleagues add acid thrown on his suit by a Southern delegate at the 1964 GOP Convention.

After that the Think Tanks and money propped up safe conservative Negroes that they used to both control Black conservatism and create an alternate base of Blacks they could 'deal with' while shrugging off demands from the Black community or its leaders.

I have made posts about my issues with modern Black conservatives before and still stand on them but I'd say I consider myself liberal though I have staunch disagreements on many of their social policies, gun control, immigration, and attitudes towards increasingly taking Black people for granted.
 

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The problem is many of these black republicans are c00ns. They don’t want to check racism when they see it.

This. I don't mind pointing out Democrat failings and hypocrisy but when you don't try to create anything better, let your ideological friends slide any slick shyt in with your consent, and tell me to be self-reliant when they almost all rely on White conservative money to survive...nah I'm good.
 

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there is nothing wrong with being conservative & black.

who the fukk wants to be aligned with the party where young white liberals push us out the city so they can live in an “edgy” neighborhood & support the gay agenda..fukk all that

You can be conservative & not support trump as well.

:ehh:
 
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