BLACK CHURCH IN DISTRESS: TEACHING FOOLISH DOCTRINES OF FORGIVENESS!
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I'm not understanding how the black church is in "distress" for espousing actual Christian values. Jesus literally says in the New Testament to turn the other cheek when one is struck. On the cross he also begs God to forgive all those who are responsible for his crucifixion "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do." As an atheist I think such a notion is foolish, but aren't Christians supposed to follow the letter of the New Testament to the law? Or are you only supposed to follow the teachings of Christ when it's convenient? 
Neil Tyson
YYZ
Oh well, I never felt I was part of the black community anyway. This is one of the reasons, just completely toothless.
That piece of shyt deserves to burn.
That piece of shyt deserves to burn.
This turn the other cheek nonsense is taken out of context so muchI'm not understanding how the black church is in "distress" for espousing actual Christian values. Jesus literally says in the New Testament to turn the other cheek when one is struck. On the cross he also begs God to forgive all those who are responsible for his crucifixion "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do." As an atheist I think such a notion is foolish, but aren't Christians supposed to follow the letter of the New Testament to the law? Or are you only supposed to follow the teachings of Christ when it's convenient?
This turn the other cheek nonsense is taken out of context so much
Explain the context then
The thing about the anti-religious argument that is most troubling, we supposed to feel Atheist are more credible than Christians. All you guys are doing is arguing to change one belief system for another.
As far as forgiveness, its not like dudes are campaigning against justice. I really don't get the argument, we should go for street justice or something? Something that the OP could easily do himself, if it mattered so much to him.
So many holes in this argument.
As far as forgiveness, its not like dudes are campaigning against justice. I really don't get the argument, we should go for street justice or something? Something that the OP could easily do himself, if it mattered so much to him.
So many holes in this argument.
This "turn the other cheek" nonsense is only applied to non-black people. When it comes to other black people, no one forgives or forgets anything. 
It's more of a defense mechanism and a way to not tackle white supremacy.
It's more of a defense mechanism and a way to not tackle white supremacy.You know what your almost completely rightExplain the context then
There's a little something I disagree with when people use it but I don't feel like typing it out. I'll just say this...no people are all religious or believers in a god. So certain worldly matters need to be handled in a worldly way as a group
It makes me sick that those black people not even a day after were saying I'm praying for him or I forgive him. Maybe that's what they should do as Christians but why not make it clear you'll forgive him when hes six feet under. That verse does not preach for you to let someone kill you or your people and let them get away with it and the fact people out here acting like it is is
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Hit the nail on the head........
The problem is being religious in general.
I mean, as long as people think some divine arbiter of "justice" will come down and fix things, they're always going to be misled.
BaldingSoHard
Veteran
It's really a matter of perspective... but I think atheists are more credible than Christians.
In the same way that atheists are more credible than Scientologists.
The reason being that any religion requires the belief in miracles... miracles that we know to be impossible. So when a person from any religion says to you, "I was taking a shyt and my feces grew a mouth and ordered me to build a shrine of poop." (as an example) you're gonna look at them like
and their credibility is gonna take a hit. So if you don't believe in miracles (I personally don't) then the credibility of any religion is at best.The other side of the coin is that religious folks will tell you the miracles from their holy text are real and everyone else's miracles are garbage. So the lack of intellectual honesty and fair-weather skepticism that religious people have also damages their credibility.
All IMO of course.
That's sort of a long-winded way of saying that everyone thinks their belief system is the most credible.
Going to church in 2015
Religion in 2015
Find spirituality and live a positive life. Leave these other things they try to attach to it alone. They don't belong together. Most religious people are entirely lost to spirituality and dedicated to doctrines and dogma that is poison. They always ironically miss the entire point.
Take those church offeringd and start community funding instead of buying private jets and silk robes for paedophiles
Religion in 2015
Find spirituality and live a positive life. Leave these other things they try to attach to it alone. They don't belong together. Most religious people are entirely lost to spirituality and dedicated to doctrines and dogma that is poison. They always ironically miss the entire point.
Take those church offeringd and start community funding instead of buying private jets and silk robes for paedophiles
It's really a matter of perspective... but I think atheists are more credible than Christians.
In the same way that atheists are more credible than Scientologists.
The reason being that any religion requires the belief in miracles... miracles that we know to be impossible. So when a person from any religion says to you, "I was taking a shyt and my feces grew a mouth and ordered me to build a shrine of poop." (as an example) you're gonna look at them like
The other side of the coin is that religious folks will tell you the miracles from their holy text are real and everyone else's miracles are garbage. So the lack of intellectual honesty and fair-weather skepticism that religious people have also damages their credibility.
All IMO of course.
That's sort of a long-winded way of saying that everyone thinks their belief system is the most credible.
What I'm saying is if someone says Democrats are bad, believe in Republicans. They are know different than each other, because they want you to believe in one political system or another.
Same thing with Atheists, they are like don't believe in Christianity, instead they say follow my belief system which is Atheism.
Both sides have the same agendas, both Atheist and Christians are trying to convert people.
As a Christian, we are attacked both from outside and within. Nothing that Creflo Dollar is about is close to being divine or holy, its a sad display.
MysticMonroe
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I agree with this. Its straight bullshyt! Too many times people look to the victim to forgive. Instead of the bad guy to stop hurting people. "Be the bigger person" "you got to forgive" This dude sat with these people for an hour, before he started shooting. And told the cops he almost backed out of the shooting because "they were nice". But he still pulled the trigger. Freddy Grey, Trayvon Martin, Mike Brown, Jordan Davis, Micheal Scott died for no reason, and the media pulled up any negative story they could think of the justice them being killed. And the punk ass white judge has the nerve to tell the victims to think about his family. The church members publicly forgiving the shooter sets a dangerous precedent. It kinda dismisses the 9 people that died. It pisses me off.