BJJ is Pointless in a Street Fight and Useless in the Ring Unless Ya Got Giga Negroid Stamina/Size

[O.T.I.S.]

@Mowgli get in here and explain this shyt. These are not BJJ fighters but they display principles on how BJJ is useless and too difficult to be of practical use for the average fighter.



Fight went on for too many rounds like it's a fukking heavyweight boxing championship. Towards the end both are barely hanging on. In a fight with two equals BJJ is pointless.

If you are an amateur fighter (as in anything NOT hardcore ranked pro-circuit) the reality is BJJ or any other grapples ain't gonna cut it.

Neither are accurate enough how do you get 6 headlocks in and 4 rounds in the fight still hasn't been decided

Unless you are a Gracie family member BJJ is pointless. Focus on improving the velocity, accuracy of your strikes and a handful of grapples and ways to break submission holds. The average amateur fighter can't hold a lock properly. They size of their biceps is not big enough to put easy pressure on the main artery of the neck.

BJJ is inefficient for lean nikkas arms flailing about like a got damn jive turkey

You cannot win without accuracy and proper compression of the carotid artery or form in order to properly hyper-extend the joint or tendon.

Why is it so difficult for these dudes to follow simple instructions or their trainer must be full of shyt

Look if you decide to pick up BJJ make sure you have adequate bulk size and stamina. More like a Kali Muscle type look.

Otherwise learning this shyt is pointless you just gonna be rolling around with nikkas on the ground breathing heavy and getting moist nikka juices all over your fukkin forehead

It actually wasn't a bad fight

Black dude just didn' know how to box but stayed trying to box white kid

nikka kept circling left when if he circled right, white kid would've been less effective especially since white kid was aggressor.

When ever black dude circled right, he caught dude and there were less takedown opportunities

Even his coaches were telling him to circle right

 

[Mowgli]

@Mowgli dissed me for taking muay thai and sanshou in one thread

No I dissed you for not grappling.

I don't care what stand up art you're doing but when you tell me you don't grapple I get concerned for your safety. You old and can't maintain levels of skill necessary to defend yourself in striking arts because of the rigorous and strenuous training on your feeble frame

Now with bjj you could push your limits minus alot of nasty injuries and head trauma that accompanies live parring in many striking arts.

I suggested you take bjj and you was like

And I got concerned because I know how violent your field, the music business is.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Breh address the point. The reality is that BJJ is too hard for most nikkas to master they can't even apply the technique properly.

Look at your boy



Why didn't he go for the takedown? Let me guess because he doesn't have the bulk to get a wrap around big nikka torso

He is an experienced fighter he HAD to know this was coming

This is BASIC fighting strategy your boy slept walk into the match.

If he was more like Floyd instead of rubber man he would have won

In this case, the shorter stronger guy fought short. Yeah homie was circling right to avoid the right hand, but he wasn't doing shyt to keep the guy busy. A couple quick strikes with the right leg while circling right would've got big dude tginking and trying to counter instead of just loading up...

And the tall dude still could've slipped that overhand... Dude just sucked

 

[Fenian]

Judo >>>>

 

[Mowgli]

I guess I love bjj because I'm 5'9 202, with stamina and power. Name an art you don't need stamina to be proficient in. Ya'll want an art that requires you to not train and put in the conditioning time necessary for proficiency

Unless you're a gunman I don't know what art you're talking about

 

[Reginald Noble]

Most fights end up on the ground not clinched up

9 out of 10 street fights I've watched there is some tussling but nikkas typically are not going to the ground.

A lot of yall have not brawled on the block before I can tell.

This ain't High School where they all stand around in a circle and do nothing - No one is staying on the ground like that to get grabbed from behind by another collaborator or bottle broke over the head by a homie or associate of boy you are trying to ground and pound.

And I got concerned because I know how violent your field, the music business is.

So he gonna be catching his assassin in an arm bar or head lock meanwhile the tag teammate will just blast him in the head while he tussling with him

BJJ does not factor in multiple assailants and gun or knife disarmament like that. Period.

 

[Reginald Noble]

I guess I love bjj because I'm 5'9 202, with stamina and power. Name an art you don't need stamina to be proficient in. Ya'll want an art that requires you to not train and put in the conditioning time necessary for proficiency

Unless you're a gunman I don't know what art you're talking about

Jeet Kune Do doesn't require stamina it requires speed and thinking on your feet. Literally.

The goal is not getting your opponent to submit it's making sure they don't get back up again and you are in a standing dominant position to take on additional attackers.

 

[Mowgli]

Jeet Kune Do doesn't require stamina it requires speed and thinking on your feet. Literally.

The goal is not getting your opponent to submit it's making sure they don't get back up again and you are in a standing dominant position to take on additional attackers.

You don't understand jiujitsu if you think it's about getting someone to submit. It's about maintaining superior position and yes you can also break or choke from those positions, any position.

Bruce Lee understood the importance of grappling. It's a shame you don't

 

[Reginald Noble]

In this case, the shorter stronger guy fought short. Yeah homie was circling right to avoid the right hand, but he wasn't doing shyt to keep the guy busy. A couple quick strikes with the right leg while circling right would've got big dude tginking and trying to counter instead of just loading up...

And the tall dude still could've slipped that overhand... Dude just sucked

That's the point. It shouldn't be that hard for even the lowest ranking Gracie family member to beat a lumbering hulk. Isn't that the whole premise of BJJ to empower the lighter opponent?

They need to bring down the ego and incorporate wing chun into the mix or at least some standing Judo type forms

BJJ takedowns are messy as fukk and they wonder why Muay Thai strikers own their dome and they don't remember anything but seeing stars and hearing bells

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Bjj > boxing

Only if you're a trash boxer

Most people can't do what boxers do so they jump into Bjj or some shyt to compensate.. Boxing is an art and if a boxer is aware of your intentions (takedowns, grappling etc) then good ones counter it.. Usually by movement. Most of boxing is footwork more than anything else.. If you got good footwork then everything else depends on your natural ability.. Handspeed, punching power, reflexes, etc. most GOOD boxers are elite in that..

Which is why you never see Bjj fighters or even most MMA fighters transition into boxing despite making more money. Which is also why most DECENT (to say the least) boxers are great MMA fighters (Conor, Diaz brothers, Anderson Silva, Chuck Liddell, St. Pierre, Holly Holm, etc.,)

Boxing is a GRUELING sport and most of the weak are weeded out pretty quickly or rarely become successful.. Which is why they go to BJJ/MMA. 2 different sports though, and 1v1 in a streetfight, BJJ might win most of those. But 1v2/3/4 boxing is king if you got the footwork.

So it's all relative

 

[Reginald Noble]

You don't understand jiujitsu if you think it's about getting someone to submit. It's about maintaining superior position and yes you can also break or choke from those positions, any position.

Bruce Lee understood the importance of grappling. It's a shame you don't

Bruce Lee is not going for no ground and pound period. He doesn't have the body shape or genetics for it.

If he were alive today he would be whooping Helio Gracie's ass on the mat and the fight would never go to the ground period.

 

[ⒶⓁⒾⒶⓈ]

Breh address the point. The reality is that BJJ is too hard for most nikkas to master they can't even apply the technique properly.

Look at your boy



Why didn't he go for the takedown? Let me guess because he doesn't have the bulk to get a wrap around big nikka torso

He is an experienced fighter he HAD to know this was coming

This is BASIC fighting strategy your boy slept walk into the match.

If he was more like Floyd instead of rubber man he would have won

Exactly

Floyd would have tapped that chin 6 times before that right hook even got halfway...ol boy would have woken up to an empty arena and two paramedics giving him the bad news

 

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

No I dissed you for not grappling.

I don't care what stand up art you're doing but when you tell me you don't grapple I get concerned for your safety. You old and can't maintain levels of skill necessary to defend yourself in striking arts because of the rigorous and strenuous training on your feeble frame

Now with bjj you could push your limits minus alot of nasty injuries and head trauma that accompanies live parring in many striking arts.

I suggested you take bjj and you was like

And I got concerned because I know how violent your field, the music business is.

that's why i respect you mowgli, you never break character even for a second

 

[O.T.I.S.]

That's the point. It shouldn't be that hard for even the lowest ranking Gracie family member to beat a lumbering hulk. Isn't that the whole premise of BJJ to empower the lighter opponent?

They need to bring down the ego and incorporate wing chun into the mix or at least some standing Judo type forms

BJJ takedowns are messy as fukk and they wonder why Muay Thai strikers own their dome and they don't remember anything but seeing stars and hearing bells

Everybody's talent is different bruh..

And just like I know some boxers who completely forget training in fights, I'm sure there are sure some BJJ practioners who forget as well...

But yeah, they got a lot of ego and big headed mainly because they feel like they got more knowledge in fighting and think most boxers only fought in a ring.. Which is not the case.

I know some GOOD boxers that were highschool wreslters or been in plenty street fights and whipped the average cat. It's not uncommon. Most boxers don't approach a streetfight like people think.. They go into survival mode and sometimes it's flat out disgusting how they play nikkas

Especially these amature BJJ cats that think because they wrestled with some random nikka for years in a Gi that he's fukking with a nikka thats been sparring with thorough cats and punching 100lb+ bags leaving dents like a nikka that kicked a heavybag.

That nikka will punch a hole in your ordinary ass chest

You're only as good as what you go up against.. One of my favorite quotes

Ive sparred Heavyweight Pros.. If you haven't then I'm sure I could knock your ass out

Speed is also a factor.. Handspeed/footspeed vs. takedown speed.. All of that depends on the person

 

[Mowgli]

that's why i respect you mowgli, you never break character even for a second

The problem is you think this im a character when I'm being dead ass serious.