Big U, Bricc Baby, Luce Cannon Caught in Fed Sweep Targeting Crips "OPERATION DRAW DOWN" | Big U Accused of "Slumping & Dumping" Rap Artist in L.V

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Big U was never known as a killer....
where in LA are you from?
He was quoting me with the mom dukes comment because I said I was talking to mom a few days ago about Suge's new interviews on Art and she just recollected how Suge wasn't in the streets until after college...

My mom is the same age as these people in question (U, Suge) and I was mentioning it as a point that I've always known Suge wasn't a goon as a youngster, even though I'm much younger (35). I didn't need James or anyone else to state it publicly because it was always known, nobody has ever questioned it...

You know I don't mind answering anything because I can verify everything I say. As for my mother, she's from Oak Park Sacramento. But she lived over in the 50s Avalons when she lived in LA...

I have an aunt, who is from Del Paso Sacramento, who used to live in Compton (not sure where) who was DJ Yella's manager and publicist...

I'm definitely not plugged in to current events but when I lived in LA I lived and went to school over in the 30 Brims, Rolland Curtis and Normandie. Still have family nearby the UG's, also have family over in the 50 Brims, 57th and Ruthelen. Also have family in Van Nuys and Panorama City; used to go to LA all the time before having kids, I go less often now and I'm not tapped in but I was just there last April and May, the exact places I just told you my relatives live...

But you know its the same everywhere, people talk. For the record first time I ever heard of Big U, it was as "Big Drawz", which was somewhere in the early 2010s, but I didnt make the connection that he was Big U until several years later. His name came up in normal convo, over at a relative's function since they live near where he's from, didnt think twice about it...

No problem admitting I'm not super plugged in but I'll disagree that he isn't known as a killer. A lot of killers have come from his section, ain't nobody from the area saying he's THE killer, but saying he's not known as a killer is false...

Aint you from Watts somewhere?
where in LA is your mom from?
 

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Everyone seems to be unintentional informants thanks to the world wide web :francis:
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Has Luce Bootee's twin brother spoken on this situation with Alex Alonso yet

 

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Wouldn’t be surprised if NBA players get jammed up with those gangs in LA by messing with girls like those who mess with gang members.
Rappers too. It was rumored Tori Brixx got Rich the Kid house ran into by the street nikka she fukked with/used to fukk with. Then after the invasion she took a pic and posted it showing this lil ass bruise and black eye. But she had makeup and shyt on to look good for the camera :dead:
 

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I just finished reading the Big U indictment. He's gonna have a hard time getting outta this...

First of all, he doesn't have any money to fight this shyt. The only time a sum of a million dollars is mentioned in the indictment, is the Broner dice game, and Big U's payout for getting part of the guy's money back, was a couple $100,000 payments. Logic would say at most 3 guys paid him $100,000 to get part of their money back. The $100,000 payments are literally the largest gains anywhere in the indictment...

He was clearly living beyond his means, which helps explain why he was doing so many of these extortion and robbery schemes. He had two homes plus a few businesses to care for, but didn't earn a real income to substantiate having two homes and multiple businesses. As I mentioned earlier, not that this is news, but at his core he's a goon. His hustle is taking shyt from people, but he's not a natural hustler...

And I've shared my personal views on robbers on this board before, and my own experiences with robbery...

So to that end, robbers always end up down bad if that's their hustle. It's not sustainable...

They've got him dead to rights on the extortions, various controlled payments that have him and his two RICO conspirators in the act. He's not getting off of those. Those alone certify the RICO and with the number of occasions they surveilled these extortions, + his criminal history, he's getting either an outright Life or something that amounts to Life given his age (20+ for him is All Day at 58 years old)...

So in my opinion, he's outta here. All the other crimes they'd have a more difficult time proving but they don't actually have to because they've got all the evidence in the world of the extortions, plus witnesses and informants. But they will, and are, using the other charged crimes to corroborate or intensify the RICO...

Like, Trap Mani initially told a few years ago that she coordinates prostitution with U, but then after meeting with U she went dark and hadn't cooperated since. The prostitution count largely hinges on circumstantial evidence or Mani's testimony, so if she refuses to cooperate again, that's a count they may have to dismiss. She could say she was coerced into giving a false confession...

She could say the payments U gave to her weren't actially for prostitution, they were "gifts" based on her and his sexual relationship. So I'm saying this is an example that the prostitution charge may not stick, but they won't need it to....

All the conversation about what he'd do to nikkas, him being a killer, other people saying he still kills people, is noise. And noise that the FBI pretty much knows is true, but it's just needed to paint the picture of the person in question. They aren't gonna be able to prove he killed Rayshawn Williams, unless Vey snitches on him. Bit again, they don't have to probe he killed Rayshawn, the circumstances justify the warrant and the overall RICO...

I think they have him dead on the tax and bank fraud, too. He's on record for not paying taxes, and he's on record embezzling city and federal money. Those are lesser charges but benefit the RICO...

I think the way this ends up, Big U probably tries to take this all the way, because at 58, what risk is there? They aren't offering any plea short of 20 years, at least a few of his codefendants will turn on him, and if he loses at trial it essentially ends up being the Life sentence he's gonna be offered in a plea anyway (20+)...

So he'll be sitting the next 3+ years and eventually take this to trial, which isn't a smart play to me, but he's also not the smartest guy in the building. He'll lose at trial and get an astronomical amount of time that won't even make sense because he's already a senior citizen. If I'm advising him I'd tell him take the first 20-25 that they offer and maybe you're home at 80 to live your final years out with your kids, grandkids, and great-grands. Most likely though, Big U will die in prison...

As for the codefendants in the RICO, I don't know anything about these people's criminal backgrounds. I do know they are all gonna try to distance themselves from U...

Vey and Bear Claw are the direct conspirators in the RICO. They gonna have to some kinda way prove they weren't coordinating the extortions with him, otherwise, like I said. The extortions justify the RICO and they've got too many proven instances of the extortions...

Luce Cannon's airhead wife went on Adam the other day and said he gonna get off because they basing his robbery charges off of his podcast speeches. This dummy is caught up in these plays and is captured on video as recent as this year pistol whipping mf's and bragging about it. Luce ain't getting off shyt, he gonna have to sit awhile. He'll distance himself from U but the damage is done for him...

Bricc Baby gone have to sit for awhile too, and I think it's pretty clear that he's quite possibly an informant. They've got him both coordinating and engaging in robberies, and he's the subject of other indictments. They let this nogga keep walking on shyt so they could wrap him in multiple things, he's outta here for awhile...

Tiffany Hines is caught in the act committing fraud with U, but if she has no criminal history she may get off light. Mani already admitted she's a pimp/madam, she may have to wear that....

Eugene is clearly outta here, though!

This is a search warrant affidavit, and a slightly different document than an indictment/or complaint, the feds do not have to disclose this, except to the defense lawyers and the judge. But, for some reason they do sometimes. It's by far the most in depth look at an investigation. I don't say that to correct you, but to say, what I don't see in this documents is the seizure of any money or watches, or cars - but they may be in others.

Maybe that will be in the indictment, and the forfeiture allegations. I kinda agree, like I don't see where the money was. I know he is a greedy street guy, but he was shaking people down foe like a thousand, "come and bring me a 1000". Even had one of his victims pay his rent or some shyt. A lot of these guys have everyday money, like to pay rent, pay for a few kids, pay for the wife, and the mistresses, and the trips to Vegas, a lot of these guys are crazy gamblers, but when it folds, there's not a lot left.

TrapKitchen Mami will talk. Feds will offer her a deal. Walk out of here in a few years, and cooperate against a dude who is going in for life. If they don't even give a fukk, they will give her like 36 months, just for being a headache. Her quotes were HILARIOUS, it's that instagram talk, that new era talk,

"I create enviornments for women to do actions and make money" (but I am not pimping and pandering)

and then U says "This is my crime? It wasn't no little girls. Wasn't no boy.

LOL

The dude VEY is the one who can give them the murder. That was his right hand shot caller. I was listening for the first time to Bricc and dude and they are fried. Retarded. My guess is they both talk. Feds will give them 210 months if they don't. And yeah intercepted calls....I mean if someone had all my calls, and wanted to paint a picture, they could make a pretty bad one. I haven't even been in a fight in like 20 years, but if someone heard me say I would have slapped that dude, or swing on someone who looked at me wrong -I would look like violent hothead. Sometimes you are talking crazy because you are angry, or trying to play the role as a leader. All the OG's talk like they have all these killings, but it's not always like that. I noticed there is almost no drugs in this. Obviously Bricc and Lucce hustle, but the game is all fukked up now. It's different drugs and different mentality. No one wants to grind out a 125, they rather just jack you.
 
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