Big reason Ill never be a huge Jay fan is after vol 1 he lost that grimey NY feel

[Harry B]

jay done def fell off into a new category and lost touch with common folk but it wasnt after vol1 homie.....

Jay-z was never in touch with common folk.
Maybe like 89-93/94 but after



Not really, once or twice he might've came back with Can I Live, Hard Knock Life in 98, Where have you been 00, Song Cry 01, Beach Chair/Minority Report in 06, Brooklyn Go Hard 08, Murder/New Day 2011. Unless you refer to dope dealers earning 6 figures as "common folk", cause I could swear that it's more people living that legal ballers life than the way dope dealers lived in the beginning of the 90s or late 80s. What he lost is relation to the street dudes, which he still didn't he's just talking about different shyt.

 

[Ohene]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNBPUyPuRwI&feature=related"]Jay-Z - Squeeze 1st - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r485-mEYisw"]CLASSIC '99 - Jay-Z Come And Get Me - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aunKge7SUhs"]Jay-Z - la la la - YouTube[/ame]

three of jay's most slept on songs

 

[Ohene]

That's cause most of the beats on RD were from '95-'96... and even on there, there were a number of beats a little more sophisticated than your average grimy NY record at the time...

Matter fact, I don't know that I'd associate Jay-Z with "grimy rap" at all. He was never the guy rappin' about sellin' crack and robbin' nikkas... I mean he did, but not in a streetcorner kinda way. More in the way of a hustler who supplies the streetcorner dudes, then rolls by every week and picks up money from them... I've never heard Jay and thought to put his music in the M.O.P./Smoothe Da Hustla/Mobb/Wu-Tang category.

I think Just Blaze has given Jay his best street-level beats... do those not fall into the grimy category?

theyre delusional man. do they even know what grimey is?

the only grimey track on Vol 1 is Where I'm From and You Must Love me. Vol 2 and 3 have his most grimey songs. Money Cash Hoes, Dopeman etc etc.

Jay has always been smooth to me. and RD is a prime example, that shyt is merlot.

Politics as usual, Cashmere THoughts, Feelin It, Bring it On () etc etc are grimey ?
Lucky Me, Always be my sunshine and Imaginary Player are grimey ?

Leave the goat alone, stop throwing rocks at the throne. (See what i did there )

 

[Harry B]

Jay-Z - Squeeze 1st - YouTube
CLASSIC '99 - Jay-Z Come And Get Me - YouTube

two of jay's most slept on songs

I'm saying though 98/99/2000 jay was the grimiest Jay.

 

[BREAD N BUTTERZ]

Jay-z was never in touch with common folk.
Maybe like 89-93/94 but after

In My Lifetime (Remix) - YouTube

Not really, once or twice he might've came back with Can I Live, Hard Knock Life in 98, Where have you been 00, Song Cry 01, Beach Chair/Minority Report in 06, Brooklyn Go Hard 08, Murder/New Day 2011. Unless you refer to dope dealers earning 6 figures as "common folk", cause I could swear that it's more people living that legal ballers life than the way dope dealers lived in the beginning of the 90s or late 80s. What he lost is relation to the street dudes, which he still didn't he's just talking about different shyt.

i understand what u saying and you have a point but u also have to take into account that in NyC the economy is diff as far as money goes with most parts of the country....most low level street corner nikkaz with a few workers was/are seeing 100k+ easy so .....how niccaz would blow that like nothin is a whole nother story

 

[Reggie]

Once Jay reached a certain level that's when the grimey shyt slowed down. Wouldn't say it really stopped completely though. Makin grimey music gets u respect in the hood, making commercial music gets u that corporate money. Which would u rather have?

 

[FlyRy]

so the DYNASTY aint grimey?

 

[wtfyomom]

Once Jay reached a certain level that's when the grimey shyt slowed down. Wouldn't say it really stopped completely though. Makin grimey music gets u respect in the hood, making commercial music gets u that corporate money. Which would u rather have?

respect

 

[Ineedmoney504]

He not that type of artist really, he more polished, and he has always rapped about what's going on in his life a the time, rd he was closes the streets, vol.1 he was removed, by vol.2 he was gone out of that shyt, dude always rap about where he is in his life

 

[Art Barr]

Jay-z - There's Been A Murder - YouTube
Jay-Z feat. DMX & Ja Rule - Murdergram - YouTube


I'm saying though 98/99/2000 jay was the grimiest Jay.

glad to see it's been a murder get posted.
people usually hate on that record, when i like that record.
i liked that record so much.
i was glad to have the bootleg and the storebought.


art barr

 

[jerzboy]

Ummmm. Vol. 3 had some heat on it. Some grimey heat

 

[88m3]

Gotta cs and agree


I honestly can't listen to anything after vol 3 it's all pop garbage

 

[dre]

His music pretty much just mirrored what was hot at the time to me for the most part

this

It was never ever about what was the best/grimiest/fit a superlative here moreso the most profitable

 

[nineteeneightysix]

Jay Z has never been a "grimey" or "hardcore" rapper...Dude is in the same lane as rappers line Ja-Rule, Nelly and the likes...

Happy rappers...

Grimey is Mobb Deep, Wu Tang, Boot Camp and the likes...

 

[TrapHouse Rock]

you know its completely alright to not be a huge fan of a popular rapper? with that said, he came out to make hit records so he did, it was inevitable.




there's another first or second page thread thats like "i dont love jay because.........."










it's 100% fukking okay to not love jay-z, just know that