Big Daddy Kane was basically washed at like 25, how did that happen?

[Street Knowledge]

His first 2 albums were classics that were highly influential. Then after that it was basically over with dud after dud. He even came out one time and admitted he wasted the production on Looks like a job for

 

[L. Deezy]

No.. he has 1 classic and a possible.

A few loosies after.. he has some cringe ass records

 

[⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐]

His first 2 albums were classics that were highly influential. Then after that it was basically over with dud after dud. He even came out one time and admitted he wasted the production on Looks like a job for

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[The Intergalactic Koala]

Kane wanted to focus on being LL, but ended up being Woolworth's Cool James at home.

• His first album was his magnum opus and was released in a time where hip hop was evolving
• He never evolved with his style and cadence
• Got caught up with trying to flex and be in Madonna's coffee table book
• Tried to jump on endless waves but looked beyond washed

Breh was just a relic of the 80s and never recovered from The Juice Crew getting buried by KRS ONE.

 

[Yecht]

Rap quickly evolved year over year starting in the early 90's before it blew up and went fully mainstream

 

[L. Deezy]

Travesty

 

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[L. Deezy]

And don't come in here with a cape on this topic. . We already saw his catalogue against KRS on Verzuz.. washed

 

[Elim Garak]

Things changed dramatically. Although he had the ability to adjust from a Rap standpoint he was no longer hot and new artist came along and took his spot. This actually happens more often than not in music.

 

[T-K-G]

It's a tough discussion to have in art but in the earlier stages a LOT of people just hit a lick because the standard is non-existent or just low overall, it's like basketball in the earlier years


Then they coast off of being the OG and start talking down on newer gens who actually have to come up with crazy shyt to be successful

 

[Mike Wins]

Things changed dramatically. Although he had the ability to adjust from a Rap standpoint he was no longer hot and new artist came along and took his spot. This actually happens more often than not in music.

Truth. Until the streaming era most rappers had a 4-5 year run tops. Including many that was more popular at their peak than Kane.

Then his instincts was all wrong with the way he tried to chase hits and occupy the LL ladies man lane to stay relevant and it was embarrassing.

G. Rap catalog hold up so much better because he just did his thing with no concern about crossing over.

 

[Supa]

Breh was just a relic of the 80s and never recovered from The Juice Crew getting buried by KRS ONE.

This is NOT true. Shan is the only one who took the L to KRS. The rest of the rappers in the crew weren't caught up in that to where it affected their careers.

Kane fell off because he alienated his audience trying to cater to the ladies and the Madonna book told everyone that he wasn't content with hip hip and wanted to crossover. He released subpar music and he was done. The sounds of the early 90's changed from the sound of the late 80's but we were done with him by then. New groups were coming out and a lot of the older artists got left behind.

I still think he had the skill to adapt. He could've linked with Pete Rock and Premier and did his thing but he let down too many people. LL kinda fell off too and people lost faith in him. He came back with hits like Jingling Baby and turned things around.

 

[Cryptocurrency Scarface]

Regardless of his body of work he’s one of the greatest hip hop on stage performers of all time I’ve seen him on three separate occasions always kills it with his energy rhythm stage presence dancing and delivery

Mount Rushmore on the basis of the art of being a pure MC alone

 

[Cryptocurrency Scarface]

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The tables are coming

 

[WIA20XX]

Album #1 - classic, can't take anything from it. As raw as it gets

Album #2 - classic, BUT he started to lean into his Mack persona

Which lead to him appearing with fellow ny'er Madonna. At the time, she was a huge star, still very much in the swing of things.

And then he dropped this BS

Taste of Chocolate - Wikipedia

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There was no "Smooth Operator"/"Ain't No Half Stepping" equivalent on this album. He would never live up again to those Olympian Heights.

And then the 4th album was garbation

Prince of Darkness (Big Daddy Kane album) - Wikipedia

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He tried to correct course in 93,

Looks Like a Job For... - Wikipedia

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but the damage was done and the game changed on him

Maybe if I lean back into being a player

Daddy's Home (Big Daddy Kane album) - Wikipedia

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Naw B

The thing is, if you've ever been to one of his shows, he's the definition of "move the crowd".

I saw at him at some little show back in the day, well past his era. I don't know who he was with or opening for.
I do remember, it was like me and some other old heads that was hype to see him.
The rest of the crowd had no idea who he was. Like they'd never seen the guy before.

Anyway, he does an acapella "freestyle" and TORE THE PLACE DOWN.

Voice was clear and booming
Lines were clever and easy to understand
Eye contact with the crowd.

And the folks reacted.

I've been to hundreds of shows, almost every legend you can think of, and that's one of the finest displays of mc'ing I'd ever seen.

I was so impressed went back home that night, and broke out "Looks like a job for Kane"

AND IT WAS STILL TRASH.