Big Daddy Kane was basically washed at like 25, how did that happen?

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Kane did too. "Show and prove" was a single produced by Primo and included ODB, who was hot off Wutang status at the time. He did the right things, but it was too late.

This right here.

It was too late. And that was the sad part. He was trying to get it back, but the game had moved on from him. Other MC's from his era were still getting busy and getting love. But Kane had gone so far into that other sh*t, it was like he lost his spot. People didn't take him seriously anymore.

I remember when he took Hov up to Stretch and Bobbito's show in '95, and Jay was on the mic talking and saying that people and fans need to start showing Kane more respect because he was a legend. Even then, you could see that Kane had lost the people.
 

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Regardless of his body of work he’s one of the greatest hip hop on stage performers of all time I’ve seen him on three separate occasions always kills it with his energy rhythm stage presence dancing and delivery

Mount Rushmore on the basis of the art of being a pure MC alone



“Can i get a stand…


A mic stand?!”



*rips the stage*




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... i didnt read through the thread .. . but the photoshoot for the Madonna Sex book put him on the black Channing Tatum path . .. . "Daddy's Home" was too-little.. too-late . .. . . i fukk with Show-n-Prove . .. but that dropped in summer 94. . . . Check Yo Self remix with Das happened already .. . . Fu-Schnickens run was over .. . . Busta was next . . . . . i just miss being young and going into peoples spots where theres hardly any furniture but lots of energy . . . when we were young . . . we were soldiers .. . . as middle-aged men . . . its time to quit alcohol and stop reminiscing and do something productive . .. .

 

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It's crazy he was only 19 when his first album dropped - and is only 15 months younger than Jay-Z. Kane career was done-zo before Jay even began his.

Other than that "I Get the Job Done" new jack nonsense, that second album was on heavy rotation by the ten-year-old version of myself.

I suspect, just like other folks have mentioned, the bright lights were too bright for Kane.
 

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This right here.

It was too late. And that was the sad part. He was trying to get it back, but the game had moved on from him. Other MC's from his era were still getting busy and getting love. But Kane had gone so far into that other sh*t, it was like he lost his spot. People didn't take him seriously anymore.

I remember when he took Hov up to Stretch and Bobbito's show in '95, and Jay was on the mic talking and saying that people and fans need to start showing Kane more respect because he was a legend. Even then, you could see that Kane had lost the people.
Why didn't Jay-Z ever put him on record during his run? always felt this was kinda strange.
 
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Think about how heads were bumping "Basketball" by Kurtis Blow in 85 just fine then when "Eric B Is President" came out the next year that style of rapping was looked at as played out

Matter fact Marley Marl said Kane himself got that Spoonie G "my name is such and such and I'm here to say" type rapping out the paint in 87 when "Raw" came out
 

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Why didn't Jay-Z ever put him on record during his run? always felt this was kinda strange.

Kane said he retired after '97, but that after making Daddy's Home, he didn't really want to make music anymore. He dropped one last project he recorded that year with the Veteranz Day joint, and never made another project because he felt he should just focus on tours. He moved to NC back then, and basically vanished for like 5 years. But Jay reached out to fly him in for the "Do It Again" video, but Kane wasn't rapping then. This was when he said he was still "retired".

Premier said he "had to convince" Kane to get back in the booth for the Big L joint and to make "Any Type of Way". And Mo Bee said Kane wasn't happy that he gave B.I.G. the beat to "Warning", but Mo Bee didn't give it to B.I.G. until after Kane turned it down mad times. So I think dude was just disillusioned with the game and wasn't feeling it and just dipped.
 

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As multiple posters have said, rap evolved every yearr during that time. The shift to gangster rap literally killed most artists careers who weren't about that.
 

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The other part of the question that I missed is age.

How old were cats back then

1988

Dre3000 - 13
Big Boi - 13 (94 for Outkast)

Nas - 15

Bun B - 15
Pimp C - 14 (91, imo for UGK)

BIG - 16
Ice Cube - 18

Rakim - 20
Kane - 20
KRS - 23
LL - 20
Kool G Rap - 20
Jay Z - 19 (never mind Hawaiian Sophie - Jay Z in his current incarnation wouldn't pop until 95/96 with Dead Presidents I (and then DP 2)

Method Man - 17
GZA - 22
RZA - 19

Chuck D - 28
Flavor Flav - 29
Ice T - 30

For a hot minute it seemed like rap was a young man's game
I still find it incredible how Special Ed was 22-23 and considered washed.
 
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